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Old 18-04-12, 07:03 PM
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Default 4x4 or 4x2.


hi guys,

how do you know if you should go for a 4x4 or 2x4?

what can you not do with a 4x2 ?

I am new to the 4x4 thing and need some exper advise to what to buy
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Golfstok,

Just do a search, that issue has been discussed at length on other posts.
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A 2x4 is a plank of wood.

4x2 is like a 4x4 without low range and that is missing a diff.

This is not the 4x2 forum. If you go offroad you need a 4x4 and pretty soon that will be legislated and you'll need a licence.

4x2s are fine for good dirt roads and tar...

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Sorry tried to search for it but.it is.very difficult on my phone
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Golfstok, no need for apologies. These forum guys will pull you apart when you use the words 4x2 or 2x4, but please, it's all tongue-in-cheek (spelling). Just laugh it off and get yourself a propper 4x4!!!!

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All this would depend on the amount of school fees you would like to pay.
If you can afford it, go the 4X4 route directly, as you will end up there sooner or later.
Now you need to ask "Which one ?"

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Step 1) Find yourself a buddy with a 4x4
Step 2) Convince him to take you out on an outing
Step 3) Let him try some things in 4x2 and then switch to 4x4 so you can see the difference
Step 4) Go out and get a 4x4
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as mentioned above, just get a 4x4, otherwise you will only regret it later on...

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Yup. 4x4.

And you want either a defender or a wrangler. .

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Yup. 4x4.

And you want either a defender or a wrangler. .

Bwaahahaha.

here we go again
He wants a 4x4, not a vehicle that breaks down or one that catches fire

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Well you CAN get a 4x2 to start off, then after a few month you realise the truth, sell it, loose a bit of money and buy a 4x4, OR you can just do it right from the go and get a 4x4.

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For 99 out of 100 km, you will not need 4x4. That 1 km that you do need it is the best km...

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Golfstok. The big question is : What do you want to do with your vehicle?

You can do a lot of over landing with a "4x2" bakkie, as long as you plan your trip properly, but then you might miss out on some of those things that really makes it special.

Secondly the big thing is that one then tend to venture into areas where you actually need a 4x4 and start to damage the environment as you get a lot of wheel spin.

So my suggestion is. Get yourself rather a year or two older model, but a proper 4x4, and you can do whatever you want to!

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Hi, in the same boat, would love a 4x4 but then Swambo asks how often will we use it. For me a no brainer but finances also play a role. If you can get the 4x4 and have no regrets later. Enjoy.
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For 99 out of 100 km, you will not need 4x4. That 1 km that you do need it is the best km...
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Hi, in the same boat, would love a 4x4 but then Swambo asks how often will we use it. For me a no brainer but finances also play a role. If you can get the 4x4 and have no regrets later. Enjoy.
You never NEED 4x4.

You can stay on tar and dirt roads.

My daughters friend lives down a dirt road. I seem to drive it every day. I don't NEED 4wd, but I slot it in because I have it and it makes it safer, easier etc.

If I go offroad I NEED 4wd because I'm playing.

And the other day we had to get something up a sand bank and it was not even the beginning of an issue. With a 2WD it would not have happened.

So yes, you need 4WD for 0.1% of your vehicle usage. You need ABS far less and airbags even less than that.

But the day you need them, you have them...

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You never NEED 4x4.

My daughters friend lives down a dirt road. I seem to drive it every day. I don't NEED 4wd, but I slot it in because I have it and it makes it safer, easier etc.
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Have a buddy. He got an amazing deal on a 4x2. Goes with on 4x4 weekends he rides shotgun. Are you the passenger or the driver. Your choice.

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4X4 WITH low range is the best option
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Ahhh I see the original 4x2 driver has joined the fray. He should kick some dust on the matter

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Ok ok 4x4 it is....with low range.

What is your thoughts on buying a Jimny. I will not be doing to much offroading and will use it as my everyday car
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Ok ok 4x4 it is....with low range.

What is your thoughts on buying a Jimny. I will not be doing to much offroading and will use it as my everyday car


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Ok ok 4x4 it is....with low range.

What is your thoughts on buying a Jimny. I will not be doing to much offroading and will use it as my everyday car
Jimny will surprise you offroad.
Nifty little thing.
But will you be comfortable in it?
Due to some mechanical difficulties in my Defender I drove one of the works bantam bakkies a couple of days this week. Being a big ish chap makes that damn bakkie very uncomfortable for me, will never buy a small car again.
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Jimny will surprise you offroad.
Nifty little thing.
But will you be comfortable in it?
Due to some mechanical difficulties in my Defender I drove one of the works bantam bakkies a couple of days this week. Being a big ish chap makes that damn bakkie very uncomfortable for me, will never buy a small car again.
Plus your mates laugh at you
Luckely im not the tallest around. I did test drive one a few weeks ago and I felt very comfortanle in it.

Is there things you can not do with a jimny except to dice
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If I were single or a couple without kids then a Jimny or a nice 2 door jeep would be right up there on my list.

Long before any hot hatchor the like. Welcome to the 4x4 community forum.

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Step 1) Find yourself a buddy with a 4x4
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Luckely im not the tallest around. I did test drive one a few weeks ago and I felt very comfortanle in it.

Is there things you can not do with a jimny except to dice

From what I have seen they are not to good in the dunes. But that was with H/T tires on. For the rest they should be awesome.

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i want to go and do the richtersveld and then travel down the west coast to cape town via some national parks etc and then back up to pretoria at the end of the year. will the Jimnu be able to handle the Rictersveld?
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i want to go and do the richtersveld and then travel down the west coast to cape town via some national parks etc and then back up to pretoria at the end of the year. will the Jimnu be able to handle the Rictersveld?

Yes, but a Defender will handle it better.... So much more space for all the lekker stuff!!

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what will be better - for around R150k to get a fairly new (less than 40k kilos) 2nd hand Jimny or to get like a defender with around 180k+ kilos on it?
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or maybe a jeep cherokee crd with around 180k km on it?
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Golfstok moenie die Jimny vlak kyk nie.
Hy het regte low range, kort wheelbase en 'n solid axle voor as ek reg onthou.
Met 'n goeie drywer sal die karretjie baie van die 'groter' 4x4s op hulle neuse laat kyk.

Ek het so paar jaar terug 'n Defender met 160k kms op gekoop en heeltemal teveel geld daarin ingesit om die ding op die pad te hou, ek sal moet somme maak maar meer as 'n R100k vanaf ek dit gekoop het. So nee, ek sal jou nie aanbeveel om 'n ou Defender te koop nie Ek se nie almal sal so wees nie maar ek het 'n lemon gekoop en op die ou ende 'n ander engine ingesit.

As ek weer koop sal ek iets met onder 100k kms koop en nog 'n jaar warranty op. Vir R150 kan jy seker 'n redelike nuwe Jimny koop?

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Golfstok moenie die Jimny vlak kyk nie.
Hy het regte low range, kort wheelbase en 'n solid axle voor as ek reg onthou.
Met 'n goeie drywer sal die karretjie baie van die 'groter' 4x4s op hulle neuse laat kyk.

Ek het so paar jaar terug 'n Defender met 160k kms op gekoop en heeltemal teveel geld daarin ingesit om die ding op die pad te hou, ek sal moet somme maak maar meer as 'n R100k vanaf ek dit gekoop het. So nee, ek sal jou nie aanbeveel om 'n ou Defender te koop nie Ek se nie almal sal so wees nie maar ek het 'n lemon gekoop en op die ou ende 'n ander engine ingesit.

As ek weer koop sal ek iets met onder 100k kms koop en nog 'n jaar warranty op. Vir R150 kan jy seker 'n redelike nuwe Jimny koop?
Dis waarvoor ek bang is dat n defender of iets dalk duurder gaan wees.

Ek like.die jimny en hy het volle low range.

Vir so 150k kan mens n redelike nuwe ene kry. Met mindet as 40k op die.klok
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A Jimny is one of the best 4x4s out there. They are like dassies, just climb everywhere.

Of course, finding one with a set of MUDs and a lift already on it is first prize... They are small though.

If you want to go the defender route, nothing wrong provided you go in eyes wide open. Rather spend 100k on the vehicle and 20k on really Making sure everything is working properly... Keep the 30k just in case..

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A Jimny is one of the best 4x4s out there. They are like dassies, just climb everywhere.

Of course, finding one with a set of MUDs and a lift already on it is first prize... They are small though.

If you want to go the defender route, nothing wrong provided you go in eyes wide open. Rather spend 100k on the vehicle and 20k on really Making sure everything is working properly... Keep the 30k just in case..
From what I have seen these last couple of weeks it seems as the Jimny is the best way to go. Best value for money and apparently it is also not to heavy on.the juice ....wich will suite me fine .... As I will use it as my everyday vehicle as well...doing about 50km a day
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i want to go and do the richtersveld and then travel down the west coast to cape town via some national parks etc and then back up to pretoria at the end of the year. will the Jimnu be able to handle the Rictersveld?
Why do you ask 4x4 or 4x2 if you want to do this route it's a simple 4x4 answer otherwise you should stay at home.

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Jimny VS. Richtersveld

I remember sometime ago one our forum members did the Richtersveld in a Jimny. The trip report made it in the "WegRy"
Richtersveld | Mighty mouse vs raging Orange


Nothing wrong with a Jimny. I'll take one any day

EDIT: I think this is the Issue where the Jimny were on the cover of the Mag

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From what I have seen these last couple of weeks it seems as the Jimny is the best way to go. Best value for money and apparently it is also not to heavy on.the juice ....wich will suite me fine .... As I will use it as my everyday vehicle as well...doing about 50km a day
A jimny is still a 4x4 - it does not do platkar consumption... you'll still be running 10km/litre or worse from what I read.

A defender runs around 10km/litre as well, but thats at 100km/h cruising speed...

But it sounds like you want to join the Jimny gang!!!

those bumpers give them such a cute smile...

just PLEASE DO NOT stick on eyelashes. there is one running around here and it's just a crime...
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From what I have seen these last couple of weeks it seems as the Jimny is the best way to go. Best value for money and apparently it is also not to heavy on.the juice ....wich will suite me fine .... As I will use it as my everyday vehicle as well...doing about 50km a day
Dit hang af of jy nuut wil koop. Jimny's gaan vir so R180 000 as ek nie verkeerd is nie. 2de hands kan jy baie lekker 4x4 speelgoed kry vir dieselfde kleur geld.

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If you want to go the defender route, nothing wrong provided you go in eyes wide open. Rather spend 100k on the vehicle and 20k on really Making sure everything is working properly... Keep the 30k just in case..
Yup. I went in eyes shut tightly

Golfstok if you do want to buy a Defender take it to someone like landyworx to take a look at it for you. He can even test the oils to see everything that is wrong with it.

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