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Old 13-02-09, 06:32 PM
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My dad is looking at the Jurgens XT 140 trailer,he also plans to put a hardcover tent like the Technitop on the trailer.Does any one know these trailers or maybe heard anything about them,good or bad?
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Hi there
we purchased a xt140 in Nov last year
i am not as happy as i want to be!!
several problems poped up since our purchase date
like, the nose cone that leaks wate, now my Waeco 50 l is blown
lid very heavy when tent installed on top
water points too low
no accesories on the marcket for trailer
trailer emty about 600kg
no power points or access points in trailer
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i cant scream now trailer is on my name!!
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Old 24-03-09, 11:22 AM
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There is better options on the market! 600kg empty is rediculous!
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Old 24-03-09, 07:46 PM
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He is still looking at the different options available,but it looks like he might be better of buying a different make.
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Go for Echo or Conqueror - solid reputation, long lists of options, far less weight.

Jurgens should stick to what they do best - caravans!

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Anything else on the market for R35 000-00, or only the xt140?
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Old 13-05-09, 09:22 AM
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Damn that is a handsome looking trailer!

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I aree with Soutter this is a realy nice trailer and well priced. There site is good as well. I think they can/will give some other manufactures uphill especialy Jurgens.

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Looks solid enough. Doew anyone here own one. I am looking around, but would like something solid, but basic, that I can "pimp" when I have $$$ to do so.
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Also have a squiz at http://www.buzzardindustries.co.za/overlander.htm

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I bought a Jurgens XT140 and I'm very impressed. I believe it's excellent value for money. I fitted a Howling Moon tent. I also fitted a drawer system, 12v & 220v system. See attached pictures. The whole setup still costs less than R70 000.00. This includes the dual battery system and Waeco 80L fridge.
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The Mission trailer is nice, I WANT ONE - but it only has 400Kg payload compared to the 800Kg (if memory serves me) of the XT140

XT120 has 600KG payload and XT 75 something stupid like 265Kg.

if you can load almost a ton and teh 600kg empty wight includes jerry cans and a few other things taht are included in the R36k

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Old 20-08-09, 12:42 PM
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The total weight of the XT 140 is 600kg. Then add the following :
1) Tent 90kg
2) 2 X 40l water tanks 80kg
3) 2 x Full Jerry Cans 50kg
4) 2nd Battery 30kg
5) Drawer System 15kg
6) Fridge/Freezer 20kg

Total weight before packing food, other camping gear etc = 885kg.
By the time you are fully packed, I would say, you are looking at close to a ton.

For myself, I must have at least 400kg available in a trailer, simply because I need to load all the above mentioned. The Jurgens then have another 400kg available for whatever (extra beer perhaps?)

I tow with a V8 Discovery 3. Considering what you drive, you can also easily manage. All depends where you are off to.
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Off to Serengeti in 2011, thus 400kg payload not going to cut it.

i like the XT140. will have a look at Uys's COnquest at the GTG and then decide what i am going to do.

So much money, so many options .......SO LITTLE TIME!!!!!!! I WISH

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Hi there. I don't know, I've just bought myself a XT140, and is extremely happy with it. Yes it is a little bit on the heavy side, but the durability is outstanding. This is my second product from the Jurgens Safari range, and to be honest, I'll never look at something else. Finishing and quality in the Explorer is just incomparable to anything else out there, and I expect the XT140, to live up to the same standards.
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The whole setup still costs less than R70 000.00.
I think you can do much better for R70K. I bought my conquest for R30k, and after the kitchen, tent and electrical system I'll almost be a t R60k.
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I can buy a friend's XT 75 for R15 grand.

Is that a bargain? - Done about 3000km, looks brand new.

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I tow my XT140 with full load comfortably at 100 - 110 km/h with the Hilux. Full load includes filled water tanks, Howling Moon RTT, jerry cans, 2 gas bottles fitted at the back etc etc etc . May be able to even tow faster but does not want to as I am on holiday when towing the XT!

One or 2 small issues such as low water outlets but easily fixed with 12 V pump and wind coming through between lid and RTT specially during winter time. Also easy to fix with home made cover.

Good quality all round. Does not agree with Conqueror pricing as advertised price excludes VAT, wheels et al! Maybe if you buy 2 nd hand but Swambo does not do 2nd hand trailers and XT40 is in my opinion best value for money.
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Saw one for sale in PE on the side of the road, not sure if he still wants one, will check if it's still there today.

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I still like the Tembo from Big Boys.
Everything just looks in place and the price is so ok.
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hi...

I have a Bundu.. made at Hartebeespoort dam and I think good value for money... www.bundutrailers.co.za. I think they have a special at R60000 fully equipped at the moment.

I don't have any experience with these trailers but they look very neat at less than R30000 and a lot of customisable options are available... http://www.jaguar4x4trailers.blogspot.com/

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I am about to buy a Jurgens XT140. Could I get an informed opinion on the "Alko Rubber Torsion Swing Arm Suspension, versus the conventional blade and shock suspension?

May I mention that I have no intention of doing extreme overlanding, but the ocassional Richtersveld type excursion
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Old 21-10-09, 11:50 PM
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I am about to buy a Jurgens XT140. Could I get an informed opinion on the "Alko Rubber Torsion Swing Arm Suspension, versus the conventional blade and shock suspension?

May I mention that I have no intention of doing extreme overlanding, but the ocassional Richtersveld type excursion
As far as i remember the torsion swing arm is (in very basic terms) a triangular (square?) rubber beam inside a casing with two arms connected to it. the wheel stud axles are on the end of these arms.

this allows suspension travel by flexing the 'rubber beam' .

there were overheating problems with the earlier designs, but i think its sorted now ... jurgens xplorer uses the same system.

the rub-ax allows for a slightly higher middle man ground clearance as the 'axle' is not centered to the wheel.
it also has a slightly faster response time, compared to the conventional setup, as less weight is below the 'springs'.
allows for a semi-independant suspension.

leaf spring is cheaper and easier to fix/troubleshoot.

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I have XT140 trailer. Wonderfull to tow behind the Hilux, even at 120km/h ist still steady. Nice solid built and feel to it. I fitted HM Rooftop (all the awnings and side flaps), 12V power system, nosecone cover, external gasbottle holder and fire extinguser. Spent 64 k on it. The sad part is now I want to sell it , allready bought a 2008 Explored and delivery will be in Jan '2010. Pressures from the wife you see.
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I have XT140 trailer. Wonderfull to tow behind the Hilux, even at 120km/h ist still steady. Nice solid built and feel to it. I fitted HM Rooftop (all the awnings and side flaps), 12V power system, nosecone cover, external gasbottle holder and fire extinguser. Spent 64 k on it. The sad part is now I want to sell it , allready bought a 2008 Explored and delivery will be in Jan '2010. Pressures from the wife you see.
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I bought a Jurgens XT140 and I'm very impressed. I believe it's excellent value for money. I fitted a Howling Moon tent. I also fitted a drawer system, 12v & 220v system. See attached pictures. The whole setup still costs less than R70 000.00. This includes the dual battery system and Waeco 80L fridge.
Marius, also very excited re the trailer, in the process of buying one, I've ask the daeler to include 12v 220v system, his oppinion was not to install the unit, no need
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I've also recently bought an XT140 and took it to Namibia the past two weeks. I'm really impressed with how it is built. Also has a dual battery system installed that charges from the car's altenator.

Just make sure you have decent tyres on. I don't know what tyres they come out with as I bought my 5 month old trailer secondhand, which was never even used... what a waste. Not that I worried too much because I ended up saving about R20k with all the extras. But I have Firesone ATX tyres on and they really worked well on the dirt roads.

I don't have a Trailer Top Tent, because the wife likes the Howling Moon ground tent too much.

The only problem was with dust. After travelling 2500km on dirt roads you tend to get a bit of a dust problem. Halfway I bought some extra foam and sealed the doors and lid. It worked, but dust will end up creeping in anywhere.

I don't know how other trailer manufacturers deal with the dust problems as this is my firts offroad trailer.
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Hi there

First thing I did after buying my trailer was to remove the Jerry cans form the 2 side doors. Personally I did not see the use of the additional attachment as they were flexing the doors - Landy has enough capacity to carry fuel and water. Secondly I moved the spare wheel to the right of the rear bracket, which existing holes on frame accommodated - makes for easier opening transferring the weight to the hinges. Underneath the trailer I sealed all the wholes where the hoses and wiring harnesses entered the inside compartment. Ive ended up with very little if any dust after travelling significant distances on dirt roads.

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Last year we bought a Jurgens XT 120 trailer. No regrets. We chose it over the XT140 because there is only a slight difference in weight capacity and yes the taps are to low to get water from. We do not worry about lifting up the lid with a tent on it as you have 3 other doors to gain access. The change we did make was to have a kitchen box made with a gas bottle attachment on the side of it. Our next project is to fit a 50L flat water tank in the space between the underside of the tent and the trailer lid. If anyone would like more details on the kitchen or the trailer please feel free to contact me on rubendup@gmail.com
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Just recently done a trip to Addo and back via the Baviaanskloof, with our XT 120 Jurgens trailer. After much dust, mud and water the trailer really held well. After arriving home I sprayed off the mud and wash it down, no water leaks and no dust problems. After this trip I now that where I go with my 110 tdi defender my trailer will have no problems. I know the XT140 looks more the part of offroad, but having also spoken to a dealer who I know, he told me of two clients of their's that are friends, the one bought the XT120 the other XT140 and they went together on their offroad excursions and the guy with the XT120 had no problems following where the
XT140 went. I believe they did do some serious offroading.

I am still very happy with the choice I made.

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Ek het ook n XT 120.
Het 1800km in Leshoto met hom gedoen en nou onlangs 3600km op die Namakwaland
Ek het n Howling Moon Rooftop tent op. Nantional Lume Battery Box met n 105Ah battery. 80L Dubble deur Yskas/Frieskas van Campmaster op n gly baan en dan het ek ook n glybaan stelsel agter in vir 8 Ammo boxes. 4 boxe per baan.
Ek het n 400Watt inveter in om by ligte te trek en om kamera en handradio te laai.
2 x 10kg gasbottles op die wiele en dan het ek n klein mikrogolf wat ek oor die roofrack haak as ek op n plek is waar krag is.
Sal graag foto's wil op laai maar ek weet nie hoe nie.
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Gaan klik op "post reply" en dan klik jy op die "paperclip". Die foto's moet net nie te groot wees nie. Wag in spanning!

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I am going to fit the double rail system into my XT140 within the next week or so for my December trip. My XT is going to Botswana - Vic Falls Southern Zambia Caprivi - Etosha Epupa falls Skeleton coast (Terrace bay Swakop / Sossus / Luderitz / Fish river and back to JHB via Botswana Buitenpos Border = 8215 km.

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Rudolf kan jy dalk 'n foto aanheg om te wys hoe die agterste glystelsel lyk as dit uitgetrek is met kiste en sonder . Wat is die dimensies van die ammo kiste - Campworld kiste of Outdoor ? Ek verneem die stelsel is so R5500-00

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Marius, wie het die fitment vir jou gedoen?

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I just posted this on the Mission Trailer website:

Where do you get a steel mag wheels from? Remembering that mag is the short for magnesium.

Does that mean its a 2 piece wheel with the centre being magnesium and the outer being steel as with the old Renault Gordini's? I did not know these were available as a friend of mine has been looking for ages for a set of these for his Gordini that he is restoring.

I just can't see the need for steel/mag wheels on an offroad trailer.

Contact details of the supplier will be appreciated.

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I bought a Jurgens XT140 and I'm very impressed. I believe it's excellent value for money. I fitted a Howling Moon tent. I also fitted a drawer system, 12v & 220v system. See attached pictures. The whole setup still costs less than R70 000.00. This includes the dual battery system and Waeco 80L fridge.
Halo Marius, ek het ook na die XT gaan kyk en stel baie belang .Is jy nog tevrede met hom. Het jy nog ander veranderings gedoen of het jy volstaan met wat jy hier gedoen het.

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Hi guys
I just bought a Jurgens XT120 trailer. I think the 120 is a better buy than the 140 because the sloping rear end of the 140 only makes inside space smaller. Before the rear end of the 120 is going to scrape going through a ditch, your vehicle will in any case be stuck with the tow hitch buried deep?
One concern that I do have is the balance of the trailer. With the wheels situated so far to the back, is it not a struggle to keep the front end from being too heavy?
When I travel my double cab will also be loaded rather heavy and you dont want the trailer to add to much weight to that. What does one put in the nose cone? Two roles of toilet paper and an empty 2l Coke??
What are your experiences of these trailers?
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I have the XT120 and I'mm very happy with it. The wheels do look far back but the axle is slightly in front of them due to the workings of the rubber torsion set up (afaik). However the nose does get a bit heavy as I have a 60l fridge and two jerry cans already in front of the wheels before I sart. So packing does take a bit of thought. I also think having the wheels far back makes the trailer more stable (imho).
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As with my last post , I have mentioned my December overlanding trip.
I have in the meantime returned back to base having done 9013km in total = approximately 2500km of it dirt roads of all sorts - 153km of extreme off roading up the Kunene river.

My XT140 passed once again with destinction.

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To me the wheels can never be too far back.
The stability it creates is the most important factor and also adds hugely to towing comfortably.
Keeping in mind of course the maximums of the towball and -bar.

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This is a very interesting read, and I'm still keen to buy an XT140... after a real 4x4 that is!

The only reason I prefer the wheels further forward is to have a better approach angle for the trailer.

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Speaking from a manufacturer's point, the wheel position is undoubtedly as challenging for my competitors as it is for me. These are the considerations I take into account after I've settled on the main body dimensions:

As Damdan points out you cannot exceed the tow hitch weight limit which is 150kg's or 10% of the tow vehicle mass, therefor you are almost forced to centralize the wheels unless you find innovative ways of distributing more weight to the rear of the trailer.

The further back the trailing distance of the trailer's wheels, the greater the tow stability and the better the departure angle, but negatively also, the more the trailer cuts the corner which limits articulation around tight bends and makes the trailers wheels run out of the vehicle tracks on tighter turns. Also, the further back, the more likely you will foul the underside of the trailer under the drawbar going over a pronounced hillcrest, and obviously the heavier the nose.

Having too much weight between the trailers wheels and the rear of the car, proportionally increases the possibility of jack-knifing through a bend. This is more dangerous than a trailer that starts becoming unstable, because when the jack-knife starts, it becomes an exponential increase in sideways force as the angle of the car and trailer increase = no stopping that from happening once it starts, unlike a swaying trailer which you can ease off on.

The approach angle of a trailer is not really an issue because the vehicle's towbar will always keep the trailer nose above the ground. It is only the departure angle that counts, and remember, the trailer only goes through what the vehicle can manage.

There is only one sweet spot on a golfstick, even if the "theory" says that hitting the ball lower down on the head should make it go further. I guess this precise position can be referred to as the G-spot of trailer design - seriously illusive but very good to find

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Hi Gents,

I've got a XT140 and very satisfied with it. I recently saw a pic of a mod done on a XT 120, sink with a table top on the l/h wheel arch, as per pic. I would reaaly like to do the same and would like to know if anyone got the contact details of this gent in order to get more info or have one made. Kindly advise.

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A friend of mine bought the XT140. He fitted an Easy Awn rooftop tent on it. (the one in the aluminium casing). Went to Mabua and Kalagadi with it. Came back and had R19000 damage to the trailer. Axle, springs, nose cone, lid, etc. The nose cone actually fell off.As it was only the 1st trip he has done with it and the trailer was still under warrenty, they had to send back to the factory to get fixed. It stood there for 8 months before he got it back.
Your first thought would be that it was abused, but no it was not. The trailer just could not take the roads in Mabua and Kalagadi. I would defenatly think twice before I buy a Jurgens offroad trailer.

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Ek hou baie van my sleepwa en ja ek stem saam met die meeste goed dat hy swaar is en so aan maar so what,ek sleep not steeds beter as met n woonwa (Triton 2.5 DID 4X4) Wat ek die meeste geniet is om die sleepwa in te rig volgens jou eie behoeftes en dan die mense se kommentaar te hoor as jy kamp.Dit kos n paar rand om alles te doen maar dis mos lekker ek doen dit so stuk stuk .Ek sal enige man aanraai om so sleepwa te koop dis regtig waarde vir geld.

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A friend of mine bought the XT140. He fitted an Easy Awn rooftop tent on it. (the one in the aluminium casing). Went to Mabua and Kalagadi with it. Came back and had R19000 damage to the trailer. Axle, springs, nose cone, lid, etc. The nose cone actually fell off.As it was only the 1st trip he has done with it and the trailer was still under warrenty, they had to send back to the factory to get fixed. It stood there for 8 months before he got it back.
Your first thought would be that it was abused, but no it was not. The trailer just could not take the roads in Mabua and Kalagadi. I would defenatly think twice before I buy a Jurgens offroad trailer.
As far as i can remember my XT140 does not have axle springs and for the nose cone you can cover it with a special cover that is made to take the hammering of lose stones.I will take my XT140 to my grave if i can ha ha. i dont think it is the trailer but maybe the people at the factory who,s work is not up to standard.Just my humble opinnion.

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I have had my Xt 140 for 14 months, and even thought every product has pros and cons...it is a great product, that is bloody tough, and has never left my standing...I have rigged my xt 140 and bought everything I need for wilderness ca,ping, and I have sppend less than R90 000.00.

Try that with the other makes!! Then I have have to say that brakhah and other have broken while we where in Nam and Zambia, and mine did the same routes and did not break..so to the chap that said Jurgens should stick to caravans, I can only say get your facts straight.

This is a good product, with a long heritage, and if i need backup, it is available all over SADEC.

By the XT140, I believe in the product, and it's capabilities!! The rest are also good, but yes it may be heavy, but why?? Because it is strong and does not break the shock mounts or chassis mount...like some I have seen first hand@!
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