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Old 16-09-06, 09:52 AM
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Another way to anchor a winch besides a pull-pal type, would be to use stakes.
When I bought my first winch, I made myself a couple of stakes from reinforcing bar with some loops welded on. I soon learned that it is quite mission to do a recovery with stakes. One stake is hardly ever good enough, so you need a few and this is where it gets interesting, because you need to set your rig up in such a way that you pull on all the pins at the same time, other wise if they take up the load one by one, they with come out one by one.

I recently found this pic on the web, and it's the perfect solution for using stakes.
[img width=320 height=240]http://www.anchorsupplies.com/10013.jpg[/img]
It's a British millitary item and the bar ensures all the stakes take up the load at the same time.
Anyone seen something like this in SA and where can I buy some of these millitary stakes?
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Old 16-09-06, 11:05 AM
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Barto,

Here are another couple of samples. Maybe better than that heavy bar through which the stakes go.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3711290

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Old 16-09-06, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: Winch Anchor - Stakes

I see what you mean with the chain.

Also a very good idea. The plate I had in mind in mind will weigh about 2.5kg, which is probably lighter than a chain that's big enough to take at least a 16mm rebar stake, it will fit in my recovery box and could be used as a jack base if need be. I will post a pic of my idea later on.

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Default Re: Winch Anchor - Stakes

And another one. I have been looking for anchors on the net for the last 3 hours. I think I am finished for now. back to work.

http://www.genie4x4.com/about%20terragrip.htm

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That's a very interesting item. Price & complexity counts against and it's quite a bit of work to get it in, but more so is beating 8 stakes into the ground.
Nice thing about stakes, if it's soft you use all 8 and hit them in all the way, but if it's hard, you put in less and/or not as deep.....i.e. it's infinately "adjustable"
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Barto, you are right. I am going to use the plate with concrete re-enforcing bar as stakes. Then just weld 4 small pieces of square bar and it is a base for the hi-lift.
I saw another one that looks like an upside down A with the 9 stakes along the 2 legs with 1 through the short piece of the A. This will be lighter than a solid piece of steel. Put 3 hi tensile bolts and nuts on and it will be foldable.

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Yip. another good idea.

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Old 16-09-06, 08:22 PM
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Some very interesting ideas
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My wife is going to kill me again tearing the lawn up trying to pull the car with handbrake on and in gear. Well all in the interrest of getting unstuck.

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This might be usefull for some.

I got a old skottel skaar braai pan, some might remember these from earlier years. The handle in the middle can be unsrewed. I welded a ring to it which acts as a attachment point for the winch or snatch-block.

Just tip the whole braaipan on its side, press it into the mudand start winching.

Ialso use it if the hi-lift don't want to get footing on any thing in mud. Take the braai, turn it up side downon the mud, place hi-lift onto it and start lifting your self out. I don't know if it is the concalve shape of the plow that help, but it just don't sink into the mud like a normal plank or anything does when you start lifting something.

Then it obiously also being used as a braai pan.

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Old 18-09-06, 02:53 PM
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Henk,

I used to have one of those old skottels. I can "see" it work under the hi-lift. But I can't get my head around the idea that you stick it in the mud and winch yourself out. What about the last few meters before you are out of the mud and the only place to anchor is hard ground? I can't see myself hammering the skottel into the hard ground. Did you weld the ring on the edge or in the middle of the skottel?

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Sorry I repry so late, a bit busy on this side

Willem, if you use the skottel like a braai-pan, right in the middle of it there used too be a up-right rod with a T-piece on top that was used as a handle to lift the whole pan in and out of the fire. I removed the handle, welded a big nut in its place, took another thick piece(about 40cm) of rod, put thread on the edge to fit the nut and on the other end a ring. So if you want to store it in a place, just un-screw the handle. When you want to use it on the fire or mud-winching ,just screw on the handle. If there is no anchor point on the dry part, dig a hole and small trench in a T-form to fit the skottel with handle if it lay on its side, hook up the cable or snatch-block too the ring, place it into the hole/trench cover it and start your recovery.

Hope this will explain it more. Will see if I can find pic's or try to draw one to post.

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Thank you Henk. That was a perfect explanation. All I have to do now is fit the skottel skaar under the petrol tank for extra protection and BOB is your uncle. The rod, ring and nut part is easy. I will try this. Thanks again.

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A bit of topic, but same thing else to consider when stuck in mud, we all know mud got this sucking properties once stuck too the belly of the vehicle. Because of this the load on the winch is a lot more than just the normal weight of the car.

What I have found that work very nice is too hook up your winch too your anchor-point, pull it thight.

Now take your hi-lift with baseplate, set it up about 5m in front of the car next to the cable. Jack the cable up to max.

Now start to winch the car. Because the winch now pull the car up rather than forward, it tend to "break" the sucking of the mud more easily, and it also help to lift the wheels more to get better footing under it.

This can also being applied if stuck in a hole and you can't the hi-lift under neath on a jackpoint. Use the some principal with your winch/ hi-lift too lift your cars nose.

Hope this will help someone!

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Barto, het gister daai steaks penne ding gisien vir R1800 by la sports. Gaan vir my een bou.

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Net die plaat, of die penne ingesluit ook
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Partykeer dink ek waaragtag ek is in die verkeerde besigheid. 12 mm plaat so om en by R250.00. Die penne gaan tel jy by 'n bouperseel op koste R0.00. Maak van storie; Plesier en die ding kos jou R250.00.

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Kompleet met 6 penne. Stewige gefordge. Sal n pic neem as ek daar verby gaan en post. Jou materiaal vir DIY sal seker so R400 wees.

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Neem 'n paar kiekies, ek wil sien.
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ok. Gaan ons sterre swop. Laaaaaik daai bloues. nes my rugbyspan

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Zantus, hallooooo!!

Daai pics van daai recovery steaks.

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Henk

its aparrently the same people that make the recovery equipment for the sadf. The ratel one has 16 spikes.

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Dankie! You really don't need something that big......it will be very heavy!
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Hi guys,
as I mentioned to incredible bob, apart from the stakes, there is a screw anchor being locally made by Charles Pearce from For-Fours Accessories.
082 574 0228. He's engineering and manufacturing is of a really high standard. I've seen this anchor in action. Works great
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