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Old 29-06-10, 01:26 PM
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I need to upgrade to a bigger car (next year) but were recently “introduced” to a friend of a friend’s Disco 3 V8 HSE.

It is a 2005 model with approximately 100,000 kms on. The engine, although a V8 did not “push” me back in my seat but this was to be expected from a car of this size. The car is huge and one can also “feel” the weight when driving. I am a bit of a petrol head and therefore the diesel is not an option. From what I read elsewhere the engine is sourced from Jag and is really superb. What worry me more is all the electronic gizmos (I was really impressed with all the bells and whistles) but this also brought more worries about “cost of ownership”. I have heard stories about the cost to replace the air suspension etc etc. Some people also tell me that a Disco 3 is something that you only drive whilst under warranty – scary stuff as I tend to keep my cars more than 5 years.

Can anybody give some advice (what to look out for etc)? What will be a good price to offer this guy?

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I had a discussion with specialists in Durban which indicated that teh cost of ownership should not be a great concern. The Air Suspension Compressor is the most frequent replacement part at about R9k and they replaced a few between 100k and 200k.

The V8 is extremely heavy on fuel compared to the Diesel TDV6
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Just bought a 2006 V8 and although its too early too tell, seems like an awesome vehicle. So smooth seems like you are driving a good quality german sedan. Offroad is amazing and we went adventuring on Sunday on our first weekend with the car and driving carefully on mixed cycled was getting 14 l/100km which is not bad. If you push it she doesn't go too badly but expect consumption over 20l/100 km. Traded in our Disco 2 and this seems so much nicer.
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Speak to the local dealer. They will be able to help you with an extended warranty/ Service Plan. It will be worth it to get the prices.

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A mate with a V8 Discovery 4 was loaned a TD Discovery 4 for a week whilst his was in for panelbeating. When I asked him about the consumption, he said the difference was about 100 km extra per tank for the diesel.
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That means an extra 14 lt per the 100km, its nothing compared to the satisfaction of knowing you can gun it day in and day out , without worries, while a Diesel is more troublesome.
I drive a TDV6 , the best diesel I have ever driven, but have to admit I dont find the figures of the V8 high , compared even to the 6 cyl. Jap Diesel derivitives around , its on par with them.

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Speak to the local dealer. They will be able to help you with an extended warranty/ Service Plan. It will be worth it to get the prices.
I agree,Disco 3 spares is expensive.My D3 has 78000kms on the clock and till date no major problems.

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the D3 is extremely reliable. i believe the average running cost excluding petrol is probably lower than a D2. it is like they sorted out all the niggles of the D2. TdV6 motor is one of the best diesels on the market and the V8 is as reliable as ever with more oomph and lower consumption.
you just don't hear of many that go wrong.
they have been around long enough for many to be well over 200 000km and still only minors.
cannot wait to get a drive in a 5 litre super. must be a thrill.
one thing i noticed is it does not feel like you are pedalling but when looking in your rear view mirror at the traffic you left behind, you realise that it damn quick.
the other thing i noticed was that if you don't watch the rev counter, you don't realise that she is changing gears.
nice feature is the fuel consumption gauge.
certainly tames you unless you blatantly wish to ignore it.
i've mentioned this before but i judge the Disco against my BMW 735i.
engine sizes not that much different. auto, heavy body, wide rubber, and long legs. the BMW had the advantage of better aerodynamics but that is about it. spares were priced through the roof and services were extremely expensve.
I would easily say the Disco is more fuel efficient and the running cost lower by quite some margin.
the BMW fuel consumption gauge was marked to 30 l/100km.
in town the needle disappeared behind the dash and i had to beg it to come back out and talk to me. the needle became exceptionally shy when selecting the sport setting.

went for a drive in one (D3 4.4) and did a round trip of around 250km. average consumption (mixed cycle) was around 14 with stretches of highway running around 12.5.
it is becoming more difficult to justify having the diesel just because of consumption as the gap is getting a lot smaller.

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I'm also currently looking for a Disco3 (and need to sell my Disco2 first) and must admit that from searching every forum for the "usual" LR problem type threads... I couldn't find any!!! Plus from speaking to my mechanic who says he does not get much Disco3 related issues (and he also recently got one which says a lot), its quite clear that Disco3s are much more reliable than its ancestors. (lets leave it there... )

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I've had a Disco 3 V8 HSE since new, done 50000 kms now. I have had 1 or 2 minor issues that were sorted at the services. Awesome and safe family vehicle with real space for 7 adults. Was gunning it back for Mossel Bay one weekend and had another Disco 3 on my tail could not shake him on acceleration at all turned out to be a diesel that was obviously chipped, I was really impressed. I test drove the new Disco 4 diesel recently and must confess that it felt quicker than my Disco 3 V8, very impressed. While the fuel consumption between diesel and petrol is closing the same can be said for performance. In conclusion in my opinion the best value for money family vehicle money can buy. And this coming from a JEEP man
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Thanks everyone for all the replies so far. I myself is also a jeep man but I have looked around and you cannot find anything better value for money. However, this vehicle is in a different calss and I am really scared that the maintenance cost is also in a class of its own.

What is a decent price for a 2005 Disco3 V8 HSE with 100,000km's? I have head offers of around R270k? Is this too much?

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Went for a drive yesterday in a TdV6 with a buddy. It really pulls well and feels so much more civilized than a D2. He has had good service from the car, just returned from a 6000km trip through Bots and Nam, with the only problem the rear door getting stuck, but got the solution for the problem from LR.

Apparently one of the few issues so far, and I've picked it up elsewhere too, is worn front suspension bushes.

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I have seen some 2005 D3 V8's for as little as R210 000 and TDV6's for R230 000.....but all have high kilos on.....

What would services cost for a D3 that has 180k plus on the clock?

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I traded my Jeep cherokee crd in on a 05 Disco TDV6 S ( I like the diesels )three months ago.
Got the Disco with 89 000km at R250 000 from the dealer, so they are out there just keep looking.

Just went on a 2 week holiday with wife, 6 month old son and mother in law. Packed it to the roof with a trailer. It goes really well and I have not had any issues with it up to now.

Just remember it has to be serviced every 6 months or 12 500 km.

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I know that we are digressing somewhat from the reliability question, apologies. My 2c worth however. Three weeks ago took delivery of a 2007 D3 TDV6 S, 44k on clock. This is without a doubt, the best vehicle I have owned. Previous : LC 80 GXL, D2 TD5, D1 V8. I've had my share of "issues" with the D2 and all reports I've read indicate that the D3 will certainly not follow the same path. (fingers crossed). Will try and get the wheels "dirty" this weekend as I am pretty sure this thing is as good off the tar as it is on.

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Please would someone shed some light. Service intervals confusing. Previous post says 6months, 12000km. LR says 12months 24000km.

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Initially it was 12k/6m, but around 2007 LR changed it to 24k/12m, and then back again to 12k/6m in 08 (I think). Best to listen to your dealer on this one, and check you service book to see what the previous owner did.
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I suppose in general it is either way good practice to have a turbo diesel serviced at least every 10000km. If under maintenance plan this might be difficult, so best to consult your local stealer.

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We have two TDV6SE's bought at the same time (2008 one has 76000kms other has 73000kms). Both have had electronic park brake problems. The ones A-pilar windscreen trim has dislodged a few times on the highway due to cross winds. Other than that, no problems.

Service intervals are 24000km or 12 months.

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Thanks for feedback. This is my concern. Why would they change service intervals to 24k/12months only for the 2007 models. Surely oils and parts are the same as the other years. I agree that more regular servicing on the diesels are a better option. My dilemma as follows : Current maitenance plan expires end august 2010. Can buy a new one for R30k - gives 2 years / 48000km. On current service intervals, only 2 services for R30K. 24000km seems very long for a deisel.

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Thanks for feedback. This is my concern. Why would they change service intervals to 24k/12months only for the 2007 models. Surely oils and parts are the same as the other years. I agree that more regular servicing on the diesels are a better option. My dilemma as follows : Current maitenance plan expires end august 2010. Can buy a new one for R30k - gives 2 years / 48000km. On current service intervals, only 2 services for R30K. 24000km seems very long for a deisel.
Remember its not only a service plan but a warranty as well. As I understand it owners could decide which plan they would like to follow. On my 2007 it was and still is serviced every 12000, so when I took out the extended plan it was stipulated that it will continue to be every 12000.

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From my previous post:

"What is a decent price for a 2005 Disco3 V8 HSE with 100,000km's? I have head offers of around R270k? Is this too much? "

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it seems more or less in the average for that age.
between R260k and R285k for the HSE.
100 000 km for that age is also reasonable.

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Check out Disco3 dot co dot uk for a huge amount of information.

Don't be scared by the horror stories, remember more people complain than praise.

Disco3 is a pretty good place and can be quite objective.

My D3 arrives on Wednesday.

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My dads TD 09 is every 20+k or 12 months. It's actually not THAT long, The engine was sourced from Peugeot and modded by Jag. Diesel Peugeot's in SA have had 20k services since around 2002. In Europe some diesels have 50k service intervals. Gotta LOVE a diesel.

We have had warnings and limp modes but nothing a simple OFF and ON again didn't sort out.

Your biggest problem will come from that STUPID PATHETIC tracking unit from NETSTAR. We ALWAYS have @#$# the moment we leave Gauteng. I don't know why they fit it as standard. Every vehicle we've had with the full Netstar unit has given us nonsense. IMO thats the UNRELIABLE part of a D3.
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I bought a 2007 D3 V8 HSE only about 5 months ago, so I can't really attest to the reliability, except there is little evidence in the service history of any problems. I traded a Merc ML350 and I can tell you the D3 is a far superior vehicle in all ways (except acceleration and fuel cosumption!). 100000km is relatively low for that age vehicle and is nothing for the V8. I'd go for it. PS: fuel consumption is a bit scary, averaging 16.5l/100km. It's not the cost that worries me, but the limited range on a realtively small tank (83l). I used to get 750km on a tank with the ML and only 500km in the D3.
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Hi there Jeep man. I myself is also a formar Jeep driver (2,7 CRD Grand). I am very carefull to give my advice here, seeing that most of the replies came from "landy lovers". I completely aggree that the D3 is a superb vehicle, but when it comes to reliability, I have my doubts. My boet was the owner once of a 2005 TDV6 D4, and he had his fare share of difficulties with that car. The ride was absolutely amazing, and so was the 4x4 system, but the computers was the glitch in this particular vehicle. Going a bit back to my ex Jeep, I had the same experience there. It was an amazing vehicle, if and when it was able to drive. The computers gave me endless problems, I had to replace the ECU three times, and that was just one of the problems I've encountered. After the Jeep I baught a 120 Prado. Now I know that is like swearing in the topic of the D3, but just here me out. Since I baught a LC, I have never had any repair costs on my vehicle. Nothing. My savings, actually stayd saved for a change. The features in the 120 Prado is not really comparable to that of the D3, but at least it is also a phinominal vehicle, and it really just keeps going. I now have just baught my 150 Prado, and will never drive anything else than a Land Cruiser. But that is just me ! Good Luck man.

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Hey, I had a D3 not D4! But these guys are gonna Bli$%&%^& us in this forum. I have my own personal opinion on the D3 and would rather keep it to myself. Go for it, it's an awesome drive. Just make sure you have enough mula to maintain it properly once it goes out of motor plan. When nothing breaks and it needn't go for a service all's fine. But the 176k service will put you back some serious savings. The other services are around 5-8k depending what needs to be done. Do the brakes yourselves even though the parts will still cost 1k you will save a lot of labour costs and it's very easy and quick to install. Make sure you have a friend working for a stealer that can help you in case of emergency and put his number on your cellphone (believe me it will help to know someone like that) Does the D3 pull my heart strings? Yes even my children still says hulle verlang na die landrover! Oh and make sure you take your prozacks when trying to trade it in with more than neccesary kilos, you WILL need them. It's a better drive than the Prado for sure, but until SA wakes up and start paying proper trade in prices for this amazing vehicle, I will be weary.
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Sorry man. At least in the rest of my post, I mentioned "D3" and not "D4". Still I hope that no one takes offence !

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I have a 2008 TDV6 since new. It is now on 72000 km. I moved up from BMW (3 series) and I haven't regretted this decion to this day. The ride quality of this car is out of this world. Suprisingly, I experience even less understeer (i.e. the need to cut corners) in the disco than in the 3 series. I have taken it to Namibia (Swakopmund, Etosha), Botswana, Zimbabwe (Vic falls & back via Beitbridge) and Limpopo (several times), all from CT (hence the high mileage). The niggles that I have experienced so far (twice in fact) were with the electronic park brake, the first it happened was scary as the vehicle had seized. It appears that they expected this problem as they provided a manual override (you pull a cable with the wheel spanner after taking out the small cover behind the park brake).

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Only issue that has shown itself on more than one ocassion is the handbrake (electric) refusing to release. I have also heard it mentioned on the rumour mill amd of course it could just be a rumour, that the body has to be lifted X amount to repair a common clutch issue although I have never had any with clutch issues so know nothing more.

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Disco 4 is not enough of a stepup to justify upgrading, so I will probably look at something else when time comes.
Eish beg to differ. What else is out there that can even compare to the D4?

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I'm like a kid waiting for Christmas.... getting my Disco3 on Friday....
You wont look back, th car is an absolute pleasure on and off road.

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I have a 2005 Disco 3 that I bougth in 2006. The D3 had some problems early on, but with later models most of those problems were rectified. I've had it in the Namib on one of those dune trips, no problem. Did a trip in the Ugab river without problems. It does have a lot of electrics and it is expensive to repair. I do think you need a fault code reader that can erase fault codes if you take it way of the beaten track, because a few people have become stranded after a computer glitch. It is an awesome vehicle with surprising off road prowess.
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Hi All, I have had a TDV6 from new since early 2009. When I bought it I had the choice of the "8A" spec or the "9A" spec which realy was the difference between colour coded bumpers, colour coded wheel arches and 12,000km service intervals with a an electronic service reminder. I chose to go for the "9A" as the 12,000km service intervals sounded like a good idea and at the same price as the "8A" spec the cost of the services was clearly covered. I do an average of 4,500km per month for business all over Gauteng, Mpumalanga and North West and being concerned of possible high maintenance costs I chose to extend the motorplan to 5yrs and 186,000km. This came at a pretty good price, I thought, when comparing against my BMW motorplan extension quote I had gotten before deciding to trade it on the Disco 3. Any way, I have had no use of the motorplan other than the services - no issues at all and wonderfull service! I now need to get some cash out of the vehicle and have thus decided to sell it . Please see my add on the forum's classifieds - I have advertised it at R455k, although this is already R20k below the going resale book value I am quite keen to negotiate it even lower in order to get the money. I have a dealer who will assist in arranging finace if that is needed. Send me a message to aidang@lantic.net if you are interested. Thanks.
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