Discovery 2: V8 fuel consumption vs TD5 Consumption & performance




Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 25
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Despatch
    Age
    41
    Posts
    1,890
    Thanked: 1

    Default V8 fuel consumption vs TD5 Consumption & performance

    Hey guys,

    I'm looking at buying a Land Rover Discovory II but I'm torn between the V8 and the TD5.

    I love the sound of the V8 and I'm sure it will have loads of power but how is it's fuel consumption? I know it's a V8 and it all depends on the weight of that well known right foot.....but in general civilized driving.....

    Then there is the TD5. I'm used to a diesel and I'm spoilt with the diesel's easy driving offroad and the low down torque.

    What is the feeling of the majority of Land Rover drivers, V8 or TD5?

    I love to do trails and do take the long road every now and then but not that much. Most of my travels are basically in and around town.

    Please advise.....
    Last edited by offroad junky; 2009/04/21 at 09:49 PM.
    Offroad junky'14 Citroen DS4 2.0 HDI platkar'12 Disco 4 SDV6 SE - BeautyPreviously;'06 Disco 3 TDV6 S (De-cat, EGR blanked, remap, Johnson rods suspension rods, 285/65-R17 Kuhmo KL61) - Beast'04 Terracan 3.5 V6'96 Ssang Yong Musso 602 (non turbo manual)'04 Ford Ranger 2.5 TDI D/C 4x4 with Solid front axle and 33" Maxxis

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Cape Town
    Age
    69
    Posts
    2,236
    Thanked: 0

    Default TD5 vs V8

    Hi ORJ

    I enjoy my TD5 , in particular the fuel consumption , which can be better than 10 if I really try , but averages closer to 9 long term.
    My understanding is that with a V8 you will average closer to 5.5 km/l , but will get 7.5 if you really try...

    So which to go for ?
    My advice is the V8 - probably cheaper to buy than the TD5 , and maintenance probably cheaper.
    The TD5 might disappoint if you are expecting low down torque - below about 1600 rpm it is a little dead ...

    Cheers Dave

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Durbanville
    Age
    38
    Posts
    2,901
    Thanked: 89

    Default

    In short the Td5 is a little underpowered for the size and weight of a DiscoveryII. All in all a nice engine with enough power when you need it. I've had three of them and never had any power issues in rocky or sand terrains.

    The V8 is a something totally different. It also has heaps of torque, much more power and in general I'd almost say a nicer drive because it is more reactive. The downside is the fuel consumption and therefor the amount of fuel you have to carry along on long trips, but in the long run the cost of ownership would probably be not far apart between the two.

    In essence both are good and purely boils down to the question - do you liek petrol or diesel. Get whatever one fancies you.

    2012 LR Discovery 4 SDV6 SE
    2011 LR Defender 90
    2014 Jurgens Xplorer

    Disclaimer - Everything I post is my opinion, based on my assumption or experience, might not be factual, don't have to be justified and might differ from other opinions. Deal with it.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Lonehill - JHB
    Age
    45
    Posts
    506
    Thanked: 0

    Default

    Hi, I drive a Disco 2V8 but with a free flow and branch (if that makes a difference).

    I just complested 2950km in Moz and RSA - Tar, deep sand and dirt. I was fully laden with 3 people and kit, 80l water, gas, long range tanks, jerry cans, etc.

    My vehicle did 12.5l/100km or 8km/l - which I am pleased about. Just remember if you're getting 10l/100km in a TD5 and want to drive a V8, you're only really paying the difference which is 2.5l/100 km (R17 more per 100km).

    Cheers
    Reinhardt
    Range Rover Sport 4.2 S/C 2009
    No Mods

    Disco2 V8 2000
    OME 776/781
    Yoko 255/65 16
    TNT Branch - SS Freeflow
    CDL added

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    PRETORIA
    Age
    54
    Posts
    9
    Thanked: 0

    Default

    Hi All,

    i usually drive my TD5 in town with an average of 70km per day.
    The average of the consumption over a period of almost 29000km has been 8.89km/l.

    During easter period i did 1550km in 3 days.... 75% on highways....
    Cruising with cruise control set at 120km/h and the use of this gadget makes a real difference in fuel consumption the overall average was 10.3Km/l.

    I believe that V8 and TD5 are very different cars. Like Soccer or Rugby....
    Love it or hate it....
    The characteristics are so different that i think a comparison is almost impossible.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Despatch
    Age
    41
    Posts
    1,890
    Thanked: 1

    Default

    Thanks guys. You all have good arguments. I was inclined to buy the V8 but was put off by a friend who had one and said he had terrible fuel consumption. I guess he had a very heavy foot....

    I have a diesel Ford Ranger and I'm spoilt by it's low down torque and ease to drive offroad, especially at low speed crawling. If the TD 5 is under powered like some of you say, then I'd rather go for the V8... Not much difference at the end of the day.
    Offroad junky'14 Citroen DS4 2.0 HDI platkar'12 Disco 4 SDV6 SE - BeautyPreviously;'06 Disco 3 TDV6 S (De-cat, EGR blanked, remap, Johnson rods suspension rods, 285/65-R17 Kuhmo KL61) - Beast'04 Terracan 3.5 V6'96 Ssang Yong Musso 602 (non turbo manual)'04 Ford Ranger 2.5 TDI D/C 4x4 with Solid front axle and 33" Maxxis

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Krugersdorp
    Age
    41
    Posts
    1
    Thanked: 0

    Default

    I dirive a 03 disco 2 td5 and really enjoying it....12.5l per 100km. But to solve the sound of the engine of a v8 I got one a disco1 at a very reasonable price.....so buy both!

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Centurion
    Age
    47
    Posts
    1,513
    Thanked: 11

    Default

    I used to drive the V8 and now have the TD5 both with auto. My opinion. The V8 certainly had better acceleration. It was fun to be able to put foot and the Disco would accelerate along the entire rev range. This is one of my only frustrations with the TD5. Its usless at anything above 3000 RPM. You have to learn how to drive the TD5 to get the best out of it. The TD5 is however by no means a slouch. You can get pretty brisk performance out of it.

    ITO fuel consumption I got around 6km/l with the V8 and currently get around 8km/l with the TD5. Range with the std tank was 530km with the V8 and about 720 with the TD5.

    I feel that the TD5 tows my trailer better than the V8 did.

    About the sound. The 8 certainly had a glorious roar, however it is really silenced so much that you don't really hear it inside the Disco.

    I had the 44gal drum of a centre silencer removed on the TD5 and it now has a healthy roar and it made a huge improvement on the bottom end performance and the sound is pretty close to a V8 anyway. As far as maintenance is concerned I haven't spent much more on the TD5 than on the V8. IMHO the maintenance costs are much of a muchness whichever you choose.

    If you can live with the V8s consumption go for it. To me the extra 2kms/l makes a difference.

    A difficult choice indeed.
    Last edited by Boyscout; 2009/04/22 at 07:47 PM.
    Deon Viljoen
    Boyscout [U]
    2012 Land Rover Defender 90 2.2 Tdci S/W .

    2005 D2 XS TD5 Auto sold at 189000km
    2003 D2 GS TD5 Auto sold at 165000km
    1999 D2 GS V8 Auto sold at 178000km

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Despatch
    Age
    41
    Posts
    1,890
    Thanked: 1

    Default

    Boyscout,

    You're not helping...

    My heart wants the V8 because it is every little boy's dream to have a big V8...but my mind tells me the TD5 will be the better buy.

    Boyscout, according to your figuers, is the fuel tank on those Disco's a 90L tank? If so, they are pretty heavy on fuel, worse than my Ranger with 33" tyres....My Ranger's tank is 75L and I get 650km on a tank, whether I drive in town or the long road....., I know, I don't understand it neither....

    I geuss I need to go and test drive the respective models myself....
    Offroad junky'14 Citroen DS4 2.0 HDI platkar'12 Disco 4 SDV6 SE - BeautyPreviously;'06 Disco 3 TDV6 S (De-cat, EGR blanked, remap, Johnson rods suspension rods, 285/65-R17 Kuhmo KL61) - Beast'04 Terracan 3.5 V6'96 Ssang Yong Musso 602 (non turbo manual)'04 Ford Ranger 2.5 TDI D/C 4x4 with Solid front axle and 33" Maxxis

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Cape Town, Durbanville
    Age
    42
    Posts
    599
    Thanked: 1

    Default

    The TD5's low down torque problem can easily be fixed by removing the centre silencer , like boyscout said. It makes a huge difference and it's an easy fix.

    I would say the TD5 will give you around 2km/l better fuel consumption but as boyscout said it's a much of a muchness.

    IMHO the TD5 will be easier at low speed off roading, like steep inclines and rock crawling, but on sand dunes the V8 will be much better.

    Also open road traveling with the V8 will be easier, but with the same size tanks will give the TD5 2 x tank size km better reaching distance. Meaning with 100 liter you can go 200km further on average with the TD5.

    The V8 is a real fill-up and go vehicle where the TD5 has it's niggles and you will need to pay attention to it. It's got week spots that you will have to check regularly to keep it reliable. The single biggest problem with TD5s are their water cooling pipe routing. And I believe LR service centres don't check them thouroughly while the vehicle is in for a service. So this is really going to be up to you.

    My advice is take them for a spin and buy the one than tickles you butt.
    If this is going to be your first LR welcome to the fertinity.
    It's really a life style choice and it will provide you with endless pleasure, LR jokes and great commoraderie. A LR will certainly slowdown your life and make sure you enjoy every moment.

    LR Greetings!
    BTW for a Discovery I'll pick the V8. Try and get the Disco II Facelift post 2003
    ---000O000---
    Disco 3 V8 HSE 2007
    Ford Ranger 3.0 TDci 2008
    SERIES III 109 1976 HC
    DEFENDER 110 TD5 2006 CSW - SOLD!
    ----
    ZS1JHZ @ 2M

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Despatch
    Age
    41
    Posts
    1,890
    Thanked: 1

    Default

    Serieslr,

    We all know which one will tickle my butt....

    on Auto Trader;
    I can get a 2001 Disco 2 with roof rack, winch, ladder on the back and spots on the roofrack for R129 000 and it's got 135 000km on the clock. It's black and the wife likes the look.

    There is also a champaigne colored V8, 2003 facelift model with 136 000km on the clocks for R139 000....

    Both are good buys according to me but I'm NO Land Rover buff.....I'm not at all bothered about the V8's fuel consuption but SWAMBO makes a big fuss about it...

    Decisions decisions.....
    Offroad junky'14 Citroen DS4 2.0 HDI platkar'12 Disco 4 SDV6 SE - BeautyPreviously;'06 Disco 3 TDV6 S (De-cat, EGR blanked, remap, Johnson rods suspension rods, 285/65-R17 Kuhmo KL61) - Beast'04 Terracan 3.5 V6'96 Ssang Yong Musso 602 (non turbo manual)'04 Ford Ranger 2.5 TDI D/C 4x4 with Solid front axle and 33" Maxxis

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Pretoria
    Age
    33
    Posts
    2,634
    Thanked: 9

    Default

    Here is some advice that will upset her:

    Get the V8 for open road and so on.
    Get a bike for the excellent urban fuel economy

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Cape Town
    Age
    49
    Posts
    144
    Thanked: 3

    Default

    Rain Hard - did you find any difference in your fuel consumption when you put the free flow on?

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Cape Town
    Age
    69
    Posts
    2,236
    Thanked: 0

    Default CDL -beware

    HI ORJ

    You mention a 2001 and 2003 model : be aware that some of the Disco 2's did not come with a Central Diff Lock fitted as standard.
    With a CDL the Disco 2 is awsome off road , without a CDL it is below average.
    The 2001 definitely did not have a CDL as standard . On the 98-2000 models it was easy and inexpensive to retrofit . From 2001 to 2003 it required a transfer case removal and rebuild or replacement. From 2004 , hallelujah a CDL was fitted standard. The cars you are looking at could be included in the "bad years" , or the 2003 might just have made it to the standard fitment group. Be aware ...

    Cheers Dave

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Ndumu / Hluhluwe
    Age
    40
    Posts
    92
    Thanked: 0

    Default

    We bought the V8 disco1 1998 a couple of months back, done 7k already, and I can honestly say I dont regret it even for a minute. the silky smooth sound the awesome power .....
    Drove to Pongola this morning over Jozini (mountain) speed between 100 and 150km/h (don't tell anyone) and it gave me 6.15km/l. If you drive with a heavy foot you Will pay otherwise I dont think there will be much of a difference in real terms.

    As a diesel fan myself I can honestly say once you drive the V8 you wont want the TD5.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Despatch
    Age
    41
    Posts
    1,890
    Thanked: 1

    Default

    Thanks guys, your input is greatly appreciated.

    Pretdave, thanks a mil for that info in the centre diff lock. I'll be sure to ask and check that out particularly.

    Pitte, I get about 8,9 km/l with my Ranger and it has 33" tyres on and yes, the diff ratios were changed from the standard Ford ratios to that of the Toyota front axle. I think it's 5,1:1 if I can remember correctly, I'm speaking under correction here... So, the 6,15km/l up to 8 km/l if you drive like an old man is NOT bad for the V8 Disco.

    Thanks again.
    Offroad junky'14 Citroen DS4 2.0 HDI platkar'12 Disco 4 SDV6 SE - BeautyPreviously;'06 Disco 3 TDV6 S (De-cat, EGR blanked, remap, Johnson rods suspension rods, 285/65-R17 Kuhmo KL61) - Beast'04 Terracan 3.5 V6'96 Ssang Yong Musso 602 (non turbo manual)'04 Ford Ranger 2.5 TDI D/C 4x4 with Solid front axle and 33" Maxxis

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Tzaneen
    Age
    35
    Posts
    41
    Thanked: 0

    Default

    Hi,

    I bought a Disco II V8 about a year ago, now 200k on the clock. A very reliable car. Average consumption on road (with a/c) and off road (low range) +-5.2 km/l.

    The reliability of the TD5 was an issue for me - I wanted to spend as little as possible on a weekend car. The 1999 Disco 2 V8 GS Auto with 180k for
    R 56 000.00 was a BARGAIN!!!

    I have the center diff lock and t/c and have done a lot of 4x4'ing - VERY NICE!!!

    Hope you enjoy your car...

    PS: Don't buy to quickly there are many good bargains coming along!

  18. #18
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Ruimsig
    Age
    52
    Posts
    2,646
    Thanked: 6

    Default

    Go for the V8. You wont get the range of the diesels but it is an awsome engine. My Rangie V8 does @ 620kms on a tank 95Lt or 15.5L/100 whereas a mate of my will get double the range from his TDi Disco 1.

    As an all round choice for daily commute and offroad, the V8 is brilliant and relatively cheap to maintain if you do it yourself. Offroad, I find the low range 1st not as good on decents as a Dizzy which takes a little getting used to at first. Sani Pass is done in High range up and low 1,2 & 3 down, I realy love the versatility of this engine (as you might have guessed).

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Stilbaai
    Age
    39
    Posts
    1,463
    Thanked: 4

    Default

    Buy my td5 so I can get a v8 ...
    Left the corporate world behind...

    http://stilbaaiminer.blogspot.com/

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Durbanville
    Age
    38
    Posts
    2,901
    Thanked: 89

    Default

    I wouldn't mind a V8 again for the oemph and sound, but as I mentioned earlier it boils down to you personal requirements and liking. The two models are neck on neck and neither can be said as being better or worse than the other.

    I'm about to buy a Td5 again... my 4th

    2012 LR Discovery 4 SDV6 SE
    2011 LR Defender 90
    2014 Jurgens Xplorer

    Disclaimer - Everything I post is my opinion, based on my assumption or experience, might not be factual, don't have to be justified and might differ from other opinions. Deal with it.

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. TD5 Fuel consumption!!
    By Sand Lover in forum Land Rover
    Replies: 45
    Last Post: 2013/07/09, 10:52 AM
  2. TD5 Fuel Consumption
    By NicOos in forum Land Rover
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 2011/08/16, 07:28 AM
  3. Fuel Tank (Aftermarket) Excel
    By Tabatwa in forum Vehicle & Technical Chat - General
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 2011/08/11, 06:58 PM
  4. Help with a TD5 fuel problem
    By Defender TAZ in forum Land Rover
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 2011/02/14, 07:49 PM
  5. Mahindra fuel consumption
    By SorentoMB in forum Mahindra
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 2010/03/12, 09:42 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •