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    I recently fitted new tyres to the landy and after only 3000km one of the tyres “blew-out” as a result of the bead bundle failing resulting in instantaneous loss of pressure. Needless to say 3 tonnes of a laden Landy went in all directions and as a family we are very lucky to still be alive.
    Is this type of tyre failure unusual and anybody out there had a similar experience. You may PM me with the details, thanks

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    Default Re: new tyre failure

    What make ??

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    if the bead was not seated properly at installation "that big pop when the tyre first gets air in it at the shop" then it can debead and lose all pressure I had that happen to myself once but from having it happen and learning about the process, if it's going to happen it will happen in first 10km or less not 3k km, what about pothole damage, cracked rim, valve failure, any airing up airing down occurred after install ? after 3k km I don't think its the installers fault - pics would help to determine what has happened however

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    Hi Ivan, I do not wish to bash a particular brand of tyre, hence my withholding the make. i am more interested in what would cause such a failure. In over 600 thousand km's of on and offroad driving with a fair number of punctures, mainly in the side walls i have never before had the bead bundle fail. I've attached a pic - hopefully its clear enough. The incident was quite never racking as the explosion when the tyre failed was unbelievable.
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    that could actually be the fitment shop, looks like the negligent use of their tools - (sent the pic to my tyre guru friend and he says its 100percent fitment damage - actually happens a few times)

    if you look at the shape of that curve, starts close to the edge and then opens up

    think of the pry bars used to "manipulate the tyre on the rim" on the fitment machine and as the tyre rotates, I always wondered what happens if the rubber gets hurt at that stage - I think your pic shows that

    I am betting that this is actually a fitment issue where the tyre shop unintentionally damaged the tyre and since its on the inside it's not easily seen

    I bet that your other tyres will show some similar witness marks on the inside as well

    either way you need to ascertain if its fitment related or batch related to the tyres - at a minimum you need to pull tyres off the rim and investigate all the others
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    That’s a rare failure and look to me like it’s due to damage caused during fitment. I’d take it back to the fitment center if I were you.

    Contact Nitebob on the forum for an opinion, he’s the tyre expert.
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    Default Re: new tyre failure

    good luck proving to the fitment center you used that they are at fault (even if there is no other evidence to the contrary)

    Only 2 possible options there:
    1. Defect on new tyre, or
    2. Fitment damage

    There is a 3rd option, but I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here
    3. Owner is withholding some details.

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    So what happened?
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    Looks like fitment damage to me...

    If you take it back to the shop and insist you want a report from the manufacturer, he'll send it in (well I would). It'll really be better if you can bypass him and get a failure report directly from manufacturer. If you send me a pm with the manufacturer, I can try to put you in contact with the right guy.
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    in for updates - any news ?

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    Default Re: new tyre failure

    Hi All,
    Thank you for your comments and input. The fitment centre has arranged for the factory tyre specialist to inspect and report on all four tyres. The initial brief report from the supplier states "damaged during fitting" . How can my concern with regards any of the other tyres failing either as a result of bad fitment or manufacture problem be put to rest? The specialist will inspect the tyres and rims on tuesday 26th June. I'll keep you informed of progress.

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    its 100% fitment issue don't let them pull the wool over your eyes

    physical inspection of the others is the only way to check - if any nicks or damage then insist on replacement, offer to pay for the tread used and offer to pay for the balance and fitment - come to the party as a fair customer - you could end up with 4 new tyres if you handle this right, or they may stuff you around endlessly

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