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    Default Good day to you all, and a question please

    Hi there, my name is Chris and I live in Cape Town. I am not as fanatic as some of the experts here, but would like to pose a question if I may. My own interests are mainly to do with electronics and I ran a business for 36 years

    I was recently in the Kglagardi Transfrontier Game Park and travelled mainly in a 2009 Land Rover. The roads are badly corrugated and even at 40 km/hr the crashing and banging from the suspension and rattling of the bodywork was very bad and subtracted from the enjoyment of the trip. The park itself is beautiful and we viewed a large variety of game

    The most popular cars I saw were Toyotas - Prado (most numbers), Fortuner, Hi-Lux, plus a few Pajeros and Nissan Pathfinder

    Next year I want to take some friends to Etosha and was wanting to get a 4x4 which does not require hearing protection when driving on corrugated or rough gravel roads. I hesitate to ask any salesman, since they will only promote their product, so seek some info from the vastly more experienced readers here

    Is the Prado really the best type of vehicle to use?

    Your suggestions will be most welcome

    Thank you
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    Default Re: Good day to you all, and a question please

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisc2615 View Post

    Next year I want to take some friends to Etosha and was wanting to get a 4x4 which does not require hearing protection when driving on corrugated or rough gravel roads. I hesitate to ask any salesman, since they will only promote their product, so seek some info from the vastly more experienced readers here

    Is the Prado really the best type of vehicle to use?

    Your suggestions will be most welcome

    Thank you

    The best vehicle to use under those circumstances will be a SUV type vehicle with coil springs on all four corners, meaning at each wheel.

    I do not think that any one such vehicle will be vastly better than the other, but on corrugated roads, a coil spring vehicle will most definitely be far more comfortable, and obviously the new the vehicle, the less likely it is to have rattles under such road conditions
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    My Fortuner has been to Etosha several times, no issues. Drop the tyre pressures to 1.5 and most gravel is tolerable. Stick to max 80 on Namibian gravel, some places are deceptively smooth.
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    Thanks for the info, folks

    I got to talking with several visitors who had: Nissan Pathfinder (he liked it, said it was his 3rd), a Honda CR-V (told me the brakes were nearly "dead" and the rear door catch broke), a Ford bakkie (he said the roadholding was poor), a Fortuner (recommended it), two people with Prados (one had a leaking shock-absorber, the other was faultless but heavy on fuel - a 4 litre diesel) and a Mercedes GLC (aircon failed)

    Independant suspension is the way to go, the Prado has a solid rear axle. I actually went for a ride in the Pathfinder and it was a pleasure compared to the Land Rover which seems so old-fashioned today

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    Default Re: Good day to you all, and a question please

    hi and welcome

    you dont mention which 2009 Land Rover product you used.

    defender? Discovery? freelander? Range Rover?

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    Default Re: Good day to you all, and a question please

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisc2615 View Post
    ....... two people with Prados (one had a leaking shock-absorber, the other was faultless but heavy on fuel - a 4 litre diesel)

    Independant suspension is the way to go, the Prado has a solid rear axle.
    Welcome. I suggest you maybe also ask these questions under the General 4x4 discussion.

    I would like to comment though on your statements above.

    1. Any shock on any vehicle can leak, even top brands shocks like Old Man Emu. Too many variables to judge the vehicle by a leaking shock.
    2. Are you sure he said 4L diesel and not petrol? I am not aware of a 4L diesel engine in a Prado. Both the KZ-TE and the D4d is 3L. Petrol is however a 4L V6 and yes much heavier on fuel than the diesel.
    3. Nothing wrong with a solid rear axle, absolutely nothing.
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    Default Re: Good day to you all, and a question please

    In stead of replacing your vehicle, have you considered upgrading your suspension?

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    Default Re: Good day to you all, and a question please

    Quote Originally Posted by Rustie View Post
    In stead of replacing your vehicle, have you considered upgrading your suspension?
    yep

    some new bushes and shocks should do the job

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