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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Nel GX View Post
    It's a catch 22 type of question.

    I had training years ago. Helped me sweet nothing. And the training wasn't bad. It's just so much information to take in.
    there's training.

    and then there is practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Nel GX View Post
    It's a catch 22 type of question.

    I had training years ago. Helped me sweet nothing. And the training wasn't bad. It's just so much information to take in.

    And, when you do find yourself in a sticky situation, you do not apply what you learnt in any case, or stuff up trying.

    The best training you could get, is to go out with the guys and girls that have done it many times before. They will guide you, this I PROMISE you. Some will even get into your vehicle with you and take you over certain or most obstacles.

    Lot's of guys in your area that will be more than willing to show you the ropes. The 4x4 Action Group goes out regularly. Join them. You will have a blast
    Cant say I agree completely.

    You need both formal training, and then "experience" training with peers. When you are on a slide slope and you feel you are about to roll, that's exactly when your natural instinct to steer up the slope instead of down is going to kill you. And when your car starts to roll or slide or whatever, you are on your own, you have to know how to control it, you wont have the time to consult your trail buddies for advise.

    Once all the basics are properly in place, now go and play and get confidence and learn all the advanced stuff and tricks.

    When I meet a bunch of guys for a trail I can tell in minutes who has had proper training and who hasn't. I have seen people who achieve the most amazing feats on a trail achieve them while subjecting themselves, their passengers and other, and their vehicle to totally unnecessary dangers. So just because gonzo got over that obstacle and I went around it, it doesn't necessarily make him the better driver.

    One also needs to distinguish between extreme stuff in a seriously modded vehicle and Koos and Wilma in their daily driver double cab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EHoffmann View Post
    there's training.

    and then there is practice.
    And you have to practice with the right crowd. Remember that practice does not make perfect, it makes permanent.
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    You need the basics in training,the rest is the build up on the training aka experience. Unfortunately you get the know it all's who end up maiming or.killing someone with a recovery e.g. tow ball recovery. If I had a 4x4, I would definitely go on a few courses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter26 View Post
    You need the basics in training,the rest is the build up on the training aka experience. Unfortunately you get the know it all's who end up maiming or.killing someone with a recovery e.g. tow ball recovery. If I had a 4x4, I would definitely go on a few courses.
    Remember Gariep NGTG. And you joined the guys on a trail in you Isuzu, and you kept on getting into trouble and had to be recovered.

    Remember that I gave up my ride and joined you as shotgun, and showed you which lines to take, and how fast, and what gear to be in and when to brake or let it ride or slide. (And we both had a smoke while doing it - aaahh those where the days, sniff ) And you never got stuck one more time and followed all the others in the group with no problem, and you didn't break or scratch anything. Remember the ear to ear grin you had, and the sense of achievement.

    Well that doesn't make me a hero or anything special or a Rambo. That's just what proper training does for you.
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    I arrived in Windhoek towards the end of 1983 in a new Passat Sedan. My new employer gave me 1: 50 000 map marked with an X in the Khomas Hochland. He gave me the keys to a LC bakkie and told me to go set up a camp. Everything I know about offroad driving and 4x4 maintenance and/or recovery was self taught from that point on. It worked and I survived in the bush for 6 years. But I have learned so much from the real guru's on this forum that I'm often too ashamed to give my opinion, because I know I'll be way off target.

    The Spirit of Africa is a great event, but not really a training setup. The one offroad academy I attended recently was a joke and one big promotion of their vehicle brand.

    Thanks to the real "hardebaard manne" here. I appreciate all the technical knowledge I have gained since joining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Remember Gariep NGTG. And you joined the guys on a trail in you Isuzu, and you kept on getting into trouble and had to be recovered.

    Remember that I gave up my ride and joined you as shotgun, and showed you which lines to take, and how fast, and what gear to be in and when to brake or let it ride or slide. (And we both had a smoke while doing it - aaahh those where the days, sniff ) And you never got stuck one more time and followed all the others in the group with no problem, and you didn't break or scratch anything. Remember the ear to ear grin you had, and the sense of achievement.

    Well that doesn't make me a hero or anything special or a Rambo. That's just what proper training does for you.
    I learned a lot from you Keith and value it till this day. I also learned how kids can abandon a parent and jump into Rabbitdogs landy...Because it looked cool😂😂😂
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    Personally I didn't do any training for the first 7 years after starting to drive off road, until I joined LROC. I learnt more in the first day of Fundamentals than I knew before. It's not all about driving, but also what kit to pack, what to do in certain circumstances such as a stalled incline ect ect. Beside the Fundamentals, doing a recovery course is a priority for everyone, should be law (tic), I've seen way to many people doing dumb things while recovering someone else.

    As a side note, it's fun anyway so go for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Remember Gariep NGTG. And you joined the guys on a trail in you Isuzu, and you kept on getting into trouble and had to be recovered.

    Remember that I gave up my ride and joined you as shotgun, and showed you which lines to take, and how fast, and what gear to be in and when to brake or let it ride or slide. (And we both had a smoke while doing it - aaahh those where the days, sniff ) And you never got stuck one more time and followed all the others in the group with no problem, and you didn't break or scratch anything. Remember the ear to ear grin you had, and the sense of achievement.

    Well that doesn't make me a hero or anything special or a Rambo. That's just what proper training does for you.
    Quote Originally Posted by hunter26 View Post
    I learned a lot from you Keith and value it till this day. I also learned how kids can abandon a parent and jump into Rabbitdogs landy...Because it looked cool😂😂😂
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    What do you guys think of these TETA or something accredited courses? Is it worthwhile doing or adding it to your name? That is if you have already attended other 4x4 training courses?
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    I have booked the course, and look forward to the days training.

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