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    We will be traveling from Aussenkehr to Goageb around xmas time and i was just wondering which of these two was the more scenic?

    also if anyone has done them recently what kind of conditions can i expect?

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    No idea, but I would like to see the feedback if any.

    Didn't know it was possible to drive those roads......
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    Don't know the D459 and can't find it on my maps - last drove the D463 in 2012 and it was very badly corrugated. Passed through some pretty mountain scenery, but if I had to do it again, I would stick to the main routes via Aus or Keetmans, unless you have time on your hands and want to meander slowly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Weaver View Post
    Don't know the D459 and can't find it on my maps - last drove the D463 in 2012 and it was very badly corrugated. Passed through some pretty mountain scenery, but if I had to do it again, I would stick to the main routes via Aus or Keetmans, unless you have time on your hands and want to meander slowly.
    The D459 runs parallel to the D 463 going north/south
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    I assume those would be the roads used to access the Fish River emergency exits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DustGypsy View Post
    I assume those would be the roads used to access the Fish River emergency exits?
    No, D463 (and I assume D459) don't go near the hiking trail and the escape routes. D463 branches off the C13 at Witputz, about 50km north of Rosh Pinah.
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    Well, I can kick myself for not exploring that area while I lived in Rosh Pinah, then again there was a lot to do and explore at the river....
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    We will be traveling from Aussenkehr to Goageb around xmas time and i was just wondering which of these two was the more scenic?

    also if anyone has done them recently what kind of conditions can i expect?

    Thanks


    Will be driving the bottom section of the D 463 in July, 2018, and will then be turning onto the D 459, so would appreciate your comments when you return. All I could find on the D 463 was that it had a few dry river beds with thick-ish sand which would need to be crossed and for which 4X4 would be recommended, but otherwise okay.
    Feed-back on the top portion of the D 463 would also be appreciated, then I can make a decision on whether to continue with the D 463 or to go the intended D 459, as I want to drive the most scenic route. We are also traveling from north to south and plan to sleep over at Sterreprag or Konkiep, so would also appreciate any available information on the suitability of any of these camps.
    Where is your intended camp site at Goageb (I cannot find any information about this place, except on the intersection with the B4. Do they have camping)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haboob View Post
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    Where is your intended camp site at Goageb (I cannot find any information about this place, except on the intersection with the B4. Do they have camping)?
    As far as I remember, there's no camping at Goageb (it is a tiny hamlet). Closest is Keetmans or Klein Aus Vista.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haboob View Post
    Where is your intended camp site at Goageb (I cannot find any information about this place, except on the intersection with the B4. Do they have camping)?
    we will be staying at Alte Kalkoefen lodge, they have 3 camp sites (with ablutions!) have a look here for more info: http://www.altekalkofen.com/rooms/

    and I definitely will give feedbank on condition and scenery, only issue is i will only have time to do either the D459 or the D463, not both!

    the new issue of SA4x4 has an article called "go west my friend" where the author drives both of these roads as well as the section of the d463 from Witputz (as well as some of the 4x4 routes around Aussenkehr which also look amazing) and the photos look to good to miss!

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    Just for interest sake, a contractor on the mine who lived (maybe still does) close to Witputz told me he measured 1C in the morning and 41C that afternoon......can't remember exactly but it was late in the year.
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    "Tony Weaver

    As far as I remember, there's no camping at Goageb (it is a tiny hamlet). Closest is Keetmans or Klein Aus Vista".

    Thanks Tony, This seems a new addition to when you were last ther, so your memory is still sound, but according to my Tracks4Africa there is also a camp at Helmeringhausen Camp, then Sterreprag Camp just south of that and a few klieks south of
    Sterreprag Camp is Konkiep Camp. Near the intersection with the B4 is Alte Kalkofen Lodge (Thanks SJForester) which has 3 camp sites...



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