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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
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    Hi Apoc

    Are you bringing in the Power lander A/T as well?

    http://www.powertractyre.com/product/html/?211.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd View Post
    Hi Apoc

    Are you bringing in the Power lander A/T as well?

    http://www.powertractyre.com/product/html/?211.html

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    no no!

    I am not importing them (or selling them) - I just bought a set to give them a whirl.

    At R2300 / tyre ex VAT for the 35s vs around R6000 for 35" Coopers or similar and R7500 for a Crusher, I figured it was worth a go.

    i.e. for s set R9200 plus VAT vs. R24 000 for 4 Coopers or R30 000 for 4 crushers....

    lots of money left over for beer!

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    I bought mine from Sidestep on this forum. He does all brands but he doesn't advertise on the forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    no no!

    I am not importing them (or selling them) - I just bought a set to give them a whirl.

    At R2300 / tyre ex VAT for the 35s vs around R6000 for 35" Coopers or similar and R7500 for a Crusher, I figured it was worth a go.

    i.e. for s set R9200 plus VAT vs. R24 000 for 4 Coopers or R30 000 for 4 crushers....

    lots of money left over for beer!
    Oh thats a nice price for 35s. Is that 10.5 or 12.5 wide, and for 15" or 16" rims?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bfreesani View Post
    Oh thats a nice price for 35s. Is that 10.5 or 12.5 wide, and for 15" or 16" rims?

    those a 35x12,5R17

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    What's the speed rating?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert View Post
    What's the speed rating?

    160km/h

    I've never seen a mud with a higher rating....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    160km/h

    I've never seen a mud with a higher rating....
    So will there be no issues with insurance?

    I assume the load rating is sufficient?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Forgey View Post
    I must say, I don't find them to be overly noisy. The Khumo muds were louder. they are about the same as the BF MT's I had on.
    Grip on tar is significantly better than BF MT's and AT's I've had. I've done 2 trails with them now. Mostly dirt driving, no rocks as yet but they have been pretty good, I must say.
    Its a 2 ply sidewall, but it is a LT rated tyre. Interestingly the load rating is higher than the BFG MT's which is rated at 116Q i.e. max load at max speed + 1250 Kg @160KM/h. The Powertrac is 126/123Q which is 1700Kg @ 160 Km/H. Thats 450kg's more, or roughly 25% more. Thats a lot. Its good news for me with my heavy Patrol.
    Quote Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert View Post
    So will there be no issues with insurance?

    I assume the load rating is sufficient?
    see above.

    1700kg / tyre at 160km/h

    More than adequate even for you in a few months after a few more doughnuts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    see above.

    1700kg / tyre

    More than adequate even for you in a few months after a few more doughnuts...
    Will the lower than required speed rating not be grounds for repudiation if there's an accident?

    I know some insurers will repudiate if the tyres load rating is lower than specified. Not sure about the speed rating...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert View Post
    Will the lower than required speed rating not be grounds for repudiation if there's an accident?

    I know some insurers will repudiate if the tyres load rating is lower than specified. Not sure about the speed rating...

    what lower than required speed rating?

    are you intending doing more than 160km/h for extended periods of time? confused face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    what lower than required speed rating?

    are you intending doing more than 160km/h for extended periods of time? confused face.
    Don't be silly nobody can afford that.

    I'd have to put down my bacon and cream cheese pizza and go outside in the cold right to check the speed rating of the Wranglers, but AFAIK it's 180, so fitting a tyre with a lesser speed rating is supposedly not "legal"

    I don't know to be honest...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert View Post
    Don't be silly nobody can afford that.

    I'd have to put down my bacon and cream cheese pizza and go outside in the cold right to check the speed rating of the Wranglers, but AFAIK it's 180, so fitting a tyre with a lesser speed rating is supposedly not "legal"

    I don't know to be honest...

    Well, you'll have to show me the law that says it's 'not legal' to have a suitable tyre fitted.

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    I'm pretty sure there is not one word in your insurance policy document about this topic so it is a moot discussion anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert View Post
    Don't be silly nobody can afford that.

    I'd have to put down my bacon and cream cheese pizza and go outside in the cold right to check the speed rating of the Wranglers, but AFAIK it's 180, so fitting a tyre with a lesser speed rating is supposedly not "legal"

    I don't know to be honest...

    Unfortunately my computer is in for servicing and I don't have a copy of the later NRTA on this machine - I'm using the web based service which may not have all the amendments included.

    however , I believe these rules concerning tyre are unchanged on later editions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Well, you'll have to show me the law that says it's 'not legal' to have a suitable tyre fitted.
    Quote Originally Posted by KurtG View Post
    I'm pretty sure there is not one word in your insurance policy document about this topic so it is a moot discussion anyway.
    There are plenty of cases where a claim was repudiated because the vehicle was not in a roadworthy state before the accident.

    What I can tell you is some insurers will refuse to pay out if the cause of the accident was tyre failure and the LOAD rating of the tyres fitted was not up to spec for the vehicle.

    Bear in mind tyre failure can also be a piece of metal that sliced the tyre, it's not necessarily failure due to overloading.

    What I don't know is if they feel the same about a speed rating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtG View Post
    I'm pretty sure there is not one word in your insurance policy document about this topic so it is a moot discussion anyway.

    well, your insurance does require that the vehicle has to be legal and roadworthy, and that it is properly maintained , which I imagine extends to fitting suitable equipment.

    the NRTA does require that the tyre have a suitable load rating for the vehicle, so fitting an underrated tyre in terms of weight capacity would make the vehicle unroadworthy .

    no mention of speed rating in the NRTA , but presumably if you had tyre fitted with a speed rating of 60km/h and you had a blowout and accident at 120km/h , the insurer would invoke the 'proper maintenance' clause and decide to not pay out....

    It's a fair question. I did ask myself when I bought them....


    A tyre rated at 160km'h is a suitable tyre for a road car, presuming one stays at around the speed limit.

    I suppose if you went 'off-road' and got it up to 180 or 200 on a track, and it let go, they might consider you negligent and not pay out.
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