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    I'm looking for a used 4x4 for preferably under R120k.
    Been looking at older Prado's for value for money as well as availability of parts.

    Any suggestions for a good direction or place to look?

    Dylan.

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    Nissan Patrol. Full stop.
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    I agree with Jelo.
    In the interests of full disclosure, I own a 98 Nissan Patrol 4500.
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    Dylan,
    It depends on what you want from the 4x4.
    Prado is good, but the 1kz-te engine can have issues.
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    2006-2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0CRD...you wont regret it.
    Luxurious car, enough space, more than enough power and solid engines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiri View Post
    Dylan,
    It depends on what you want from the 4x4.
    Prado is good, but the 1kz-te engine can have issues.
    Maar daar is n easy fix vir die Kz-te se probleme.
    Ricoffy is my voorkeur keuse vir Koffie, en Toyota vir n Bakkie, en ek dra net 2 tone hemde..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    Maar daar is n easy fix vir die Kz-te se probleme.
    Reenen, wat is die easy fix

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    5 mm gaaitjie boor op rand van thermostad. Kzte se thermostad sit na radiator, voor engine, nie na engine, voor radiator. So die thermostat maak oop, koue water van radiator kom in, thermostad maak toe. N klomp keer tot hy redelik stabiliseer. Dit gee mee n klomp rek en krimp aksies op die top, en dan eventually kraak hy.

    Deur n 5mm gat te boor, is die proses geluidelik, minder rek en krimp aksies, minder skokke op top, maar 5mm is nie groot genoeg sodat engine te lank koud loop nie. So dit haal maar net die hitte/koue skokke op top uit.
    Ricoffy is my voorkeur keuse vir Koffie, en Toyota vir n Bakkie, en ek dra net 2 tone hemde..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    5 mm gaaitjie boor op rand van thermostad. Kzte se thermostad sit na radiator, voor engine, nie na engine, voor radiator. So die thermostat maak oop, koue water van radiator kom in, thermostad maak toe. N klomp keer tot hy redelik stabiliseer. Dit gee mee n klomp rek en krimp aksies op die top, en dan eventually kraak hy.

    Deur n 5mm gat te boor, is die proses geluidelik, minder rek en krimp aksies, minder skokke op top, maar 5mm is nie groot genoeg sodat engine te lank koud loop nie. So dit haal maar net die hitte/koue skokke op top uit.
    A 5mm hole is standard on some Land Rover thermostats precisely due to this.
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    Baie het die gaaitjie, maar met so piepietjie, sodat daar nie n airlock ontstaan nie. Maar sodra engine start, druk die vloei die piepie vas, sodat dit die gat blok. Die gat met piepie in help nie, dit moet n oop gat wees ( ek weet nie hoe lyk n Landi se thermostat nie, of dit oop gat, of een met pennetjie on is)
    Ricoffy is my voorkeur keuse vir Koffie, en Toyota vir n Bakkie, en ek dra net 2 tone hemde..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    Baie het die gaaitjie, maar met so piepietjie, sodat daar nie n airlock ontstaan nie. Maar sodra engine start, druk die vloei die piepie vas, sodat dit die gat blok. Die gat met piepie in help nie, dit moet n oop gat wees ( ek weet nie hoe lyk n Landi se thermostat nie, of dit oop gat, of een met pennetjie on is)
    ek dink die Landy een het 'n tottertjie ja
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    Really depends on what you want it for and how extreme you will be. Have a look at an 80series cruiser Diesel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rechardt View Post
    Have a look at an 80series cruiser Diesel.
    Somebody said the spares for these are scarce. But I like them as well. Unfortunately usually overpriced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    Somebody said the spares for these are scarce. But I like them as well. Unfortunately usually overpriced.
    Yes, you are unlikely to get a good one with decent low mileage for under R120k. I drive a '96 S80 diesel and it's a fantastic off-road vehicle, and most parts seem to be fairly readily available. Service parts anyway...bearings, filters, brakes, hoses etc etc.

    If you up your price you might find a decent one in the R150-160k range.
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    For your budget you probably won't find a good J120 Prado (2002 - 2009), petrol or diesel, and the J90 (1996 - 2002) is getting on a bit. That arguably makes a Gen3 Pajero Di-D (2000 - 2007) better second-hand value; petrols (3.5 or 3.8 V6's) would go even cheaper. I'd also look at:

    Disco 3 4.0 V6 petrol (Hen's teeth)
    Earlier Nissan Patrol Y61 petrol or diesel, but get that 3.0 diesel properly checked especially if it's pre-2005. The earliest ones came in 4.2 NA diesel, a gem but a donkey.
    A good Defender TD5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens78 View Post
    For your budget you probably won't find a good J120 Prado (2002 - 2009), petrol or diesel, and the J90 (1996 - 2002) is getting on a bit. That arguably makes a Gen3 Pajero Di-D (2000 - 2007) better second-hand value; petrols (3.5 or 3.8 V6's) would go even cheaper. I'd also look at:

    Disco 3 4.0 V6 petrol (Hen's teeth)
    Earlier Nissan Patrol Y61 petrol or diesel, but get that 3.0 diesel properly checked especially if it's pre-2005. The earliest ones came in 4.2 NA diesel, a gem but a donkey.
    A good Defender TD5
    Mercedes-engined diesel Jeep Cherokees
    Nissan Pathfinder
    Thanks Jens!

    That's pretty much along the lines of what I've been looking at. I've been sticking with prado/cruiser just because of availability of parts. But pajero has also been on my radar.

    Appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doyal View Post
    Thanks Jens!

    That's pretty much along the lines of what I've been looking at. I've been sticking with prado/cruiser just because of availability of parts. But pajero has also been on my radar.

    Appreciate it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarylB View Post
    Yes, you are unlikely to get a good one with decent low mileage for under R120k. I drive a '96 S80 diesel and it's a fantastic off-road vehicle, and most parts seem to be fairly readily available. Service parts anyway...bearings, filters, brakes, hoses etc etc.

    If you up your price you might find a decent one in the R150-160k range.
    Thanks, I've been looking around the sub-2000 year mark and something that's done less than 300k. Proving to be a challenge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens78 View Post
    For your budget you probably won't find a good J120 Prado (2002 - 2009), petrol or diesel, and the J90 (1996 - 2002) is getting on a bit. That arguably makes a Gen3 Pajero Di-D (2000 - 2007) better second-hand value; petrols (3.5 or 3.8 V6's) would go even cheaper. I'd also look at:

    Disco 3 4.0 V6 petrol (Hen's teeth)
    Earlier Nissan Patrol Y61 petrol or diesel, but get that 3.0 diesel properly checked especially if it's pre-2005. The earliest ones came in 4.2 NA diesel, a gem but a donkey.
    A good Defender TD5
    Mercedes-engined diesel Jeep Cherokees
    Nissan Pathfinder
    The WK jeep a refered to in an earlier post (2006-2010 jeep grand cherokee 3.0CRD) has the merc engine in.
    For R200k you will find an almost "new" WK. Go read in the Jeep section about the WK. for R120k - R140k you will find a decent one.

    A lot of car for that money, powerful engine (160kw). Services and parts not that expensive. I have sold my WK on 260k, biggest issue was the turbo replacement and that costed me around R20k with a service and brand new turbo.

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    I have 80 series Cruiser SW. 4500 petrol. Very thirsty, but gets you where you want to go. Parts are readily available. I had to replace reverse gear selector a month ago. Broke when I was in Mozambique...That another story..LOL. I would rather buy petrol than diesel for these older models, even if they are heavier on juice. Maintenance far cheaper than diesel. You will get them still at reasonable prices, even well below R 100k if you not in hurry.

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