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    Default Advice needed - Suspected Suspension Upgrade Problem.

    We took one of our Vehicles in to Upgrade the worn Shock absorbers.

    They replaced it with Monroe Rancho Shocks, Front and Rear.

    When we look underneath there is no Rear Coil springs, and the Leaf springs are almost Horizontal.

    The Fitment centre said that the Shocks does not come with Coils springs, and they gave our old Camil Coils back. (we had camil suspension)

    One of the Other fitment Centre told us we have to upgrade our Leaf springs to match the new Suspension.

    Something does no feel 100% to us.

    Can someone please advice with more experience.

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    Default Re: Advice needed - Suspected Suspension Upgrade Problem.

    is the vehicle loaded?
    looks like its been hitting the bump stop often and with less than 2" of travel available.

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    Default Re: Advice needed - Suspected Suspension Upgrade Problem.

    It is loaded with about 300KG.

    It is used to Take Equipment up mountain terrain to Radio Towers.

    We never had this problem with previous Camil suspension.

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    Default Re: Advice needed - Suspected Suspension Upgrade Problem.

    I also had Rancho shocks fitted to the Pajero. No coils are included. Even at the firmest setting it drove like a ship. The fitment centre first swapped out the front shocks. Then they swapped them for Monroe Adventure shocks. Ten times better than the adjustable Ranchos.
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    Default Re: Advice needed - Suspected Suspension Upgrade Problem.

    edit : deleted
    Last edited by RussellF; 2017/01/09 at 12:57 PM.

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    Default Re: Advice needed - Suspected Suspension Upgrade Problem.

    My Biggest issue is, how do we solve the "flat" Leaf springs, it looks like the Bakkie is overloaded, even with almost no weight.

    We were not advised by the Fitment Centre to add more leaf springs, or to add Coil springs.

    So we re not sure what to do, it is like we downgraded our Suspension now

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    Default Re: Advice needed - Suspected Suspension Upgrade Problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnywhereAfrica View Post
    ................, it is like we downgraded our Suspension now
    Yip, thats exactly what you did.

    You should have called Piet Wydeman for Camil replacement shocks.
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    Default Re: Advice needed - Suspected Suspension Upgrade Problem.

    So basically the Fitment centre Sold us inferior equipment from what we had.

    Can we Add coil springs or leaf springs to Upgrade it ?

    Or would it be a better option to just take it back and ask for a refund ?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Advice needed - Suspected Suspension Upgrade Problem.

    I agree with bfree.
    But remember that the coilover Camils are not a standard issue, its an aftermarket upgrade, so the fitment centre could only fit what is specified on their books.
    The old Camils can be reconditioned and they will be as good as new for many years.
    And imho, you should upgrade the leaf springs anyway.
    No shock, not even the coilovers are supposed to do the job of the springs.
    If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right. SJ

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    Default Re: Advice needed - Suspected Suspension Upgrade Problem.

    The coil over shocks do help slightly, but I doubt you can expect more than around 300kg help on the rear end, and around 200kg on the front.

    The original Camils on the front of my Hardbody was only there to take same strain off the torsion with the heavy diesel motor. Without the coils the torsions were set very tight.

    As an idea, my Harbody is so heavy up front, that the standard HB rear leaf springs invert with the weight. To carry the front (only just), an extra blade has to be added to the pack. The standard little coil overs just got crushed when I thought I could use them as helpers.

    Here is a pic of my added blade on the original HB one tonner leaf pack. According to the spring works, good to carry 1,4tons between the two packs, yet the HB flattens them just standing with no load or passengers.
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