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    Any suggestions for digital meters to monitor various key areas of the charging set-up in our 4x4's.

    I have a simple National Lunar "meter" but am looking for something more comprehensive - reasonably priced - and which is easy to install without large shunts etc.
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    Many thanks but there is a post suggesting their meters may require large bulky shunts and maybe are not the easiest to install?

    See Subok's post: http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...ing?p=3433047&

    I am wondering what is new on the market.....

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    I bought one of their amp/volt meters specifically because of the fact that it has a built in internal shunt. Only three wires to connect.

    Fitting mine this weekend.

    I also do not want large bulky external shunts.
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    I see 4x4 Direct also has these:

    http://www.4x4direct.co.za/battery-a...y-monitor.html

    and found these as well:

    http://www.4x4direct.co.za/558-meters
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    Too fancy for my liking. I hate to toggle between functions/screens and there is more that could go wrong.

    This is all I require.

    For a more or less accurate reading, it does mean that I have to disconnect all loads from the battery for about 15min, but I'm fine with this.

    The fridge compressor shuts down longer than this in any event on a normal temperature day.
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    Thanks - which model did you buy?



    Quote Originally Posted by Die SwartKat View Post
    I bought one of their amp/volt meters specifically because of the fact that it has a built in internal shunt. Only three wires to connect.

    Fitting mine this weekend.

    I also do not want large bulky external shunts.
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    Can't remember any model no.

    But I got this one. Round one is easier to install. (cutting holes)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Dold View Post
    Any suggestions for digital meters to monitor various key areas of the charging set-up in our 4x4's.

    I have a simple National Lunar "meter" but am looking for something more comprehensive - reasonably priced - and which is easy to install without large shunts etc.
    Without shunts you cant monitor current. Without current you may just as well stick to the NL meter.

    At the relatively small currents we are talking here you do get Meters with a built in shunt. Would be best to get two so you can monitor battery charge/discharge current and load current independently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Dold View Post
    Any suggestions for digital meters to monitor various key areas of the charging set-up in our 4x4's.

    I have a simple National Lunar "meter" but am looking for something more comprehensive - reasonably priced - and which is easy to install without large shunts etc.

    I have a big liking for the Victron BMV601 meters. It has a shunt but its easy to mount the actual display far from the battery and shunt. So space and install not to tricky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillysCJ View Post
    I have a big liking for the Victron BMV601 meters. It has a shunt but its easy to mount the actual display far from the battery and shunt. So space and install not to tricky.
    Paul said reasonably priced. I also like the Victron meter, but it is normally seriously overkill for a camping dual battery installation. Intended more for yachts and off grid cottages etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Paul said reasonably priced. I also like the Victron meter, but it is normally seriously overkill for a camping dual battery installation. Intended more for yachts and off grid cottages etc.

    Ha ha.

    Guess it depends on the definition.

    You spend R2500 on a battery. R2000 on a charger and R4000 on some solar panels.
    Then adding R2000 for a propper meter that allows you to really camp with the knowledge that your meat will stay frozen for the duration of the trip and the time left on your battery before it dies/forced to take a long drive.

    I was just suprised no one even mentioned them. I have one in my trailer and one in the Jeep system and I cannot imagine going without them anymore. They are my only point of reference on my marginal systems. Otherwise I had to spend quite a bit more money just to be safe.
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    Anything Victron is excellent but expensive!
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    Look at Geek, i got my one thear

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    Quote Originally Posted by calitzfamily View Post
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    Anything Victron is excellent but expensive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Dold View Post
    Any suggestions for digital meters to monitor various key areas of the charging set-up in our 4x4's.

    I have a simple National Lunar "meter" but am looking for something more comprehensive - reasonably priced - and which is easy to install without large shunts etc.
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    have you looked at Watt meters, I used these before switching over to Gerhard's DIY Batt monitor, same price as two W meters though

    http://www.elexco.co.za/index.php?ro...product_id=442
    Easy to install too.
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    As a matter of interest what are the advantages of Gerhard's DIY Batt monitor over the Watt energy meters?

    Any tips on connecting-mounting the Watt energy meters - I am using the
    Ctek D250S DC-DC system with solar panels and lead crystal battery. Presume one for solar panel input and a second for the battery.



    Quote Originally Posted by DirtBasher View Post
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    have you looked at Watt meters, I used these before switching over to Gerhard's DIY Batt monitor, same price as two W meters though

    http://www.elexco.co.za/index.php?ro...product_id=442
    Easy to install too.
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    Paul. The DIY meter is not for everyone. Its diy first of all and its not comercially packed and so on.

    The difference however is it does counting. It does not just give a view of whats happening now. It tells you what you put into the battery and what you took out the battery over the total charge. So you will at all time get a view of how many AmpHours is left in your battery and the est time before its flat.

    So it tells you amps and watts. But also does a sumation of Amphours removed and amphours replaced and whats left.

    Its similiar to the Victron data.
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