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    SCAM: DISCO 4 ADVERT LEADS TO “NAMIBIAN TRUCK DRIVER” FRAUD OF R9000


    The notorious “Namibian Truck Driver”, now alleging to be “Johannes Nangolo” (apparently also known as “Thomas”, “Rudi”, “Patrick”, “JP”), pounced again. He embezzled R9000 from me. His cellphone number is still 0788644787– sometimes he uses 0729306992 as well. (Google the first number. It will pop up in connection with a similar scam: http://www.reportacrime.co.za/CrimeReport.aspx?ID=8235 - now also see http://www.reportacrime.co.za/CrimeReport.aspx?ID=9684.)


    This is what happened:


    “Johannes Nangolo” called on 10 August 2015 in response to my AutoTrader and Gumtree adds for my Land Rover Discovery 4. Self-declared Black man from Namibia, speaks fluent Afrikaans. Buoyantly rattles off his surname (Nangolo) in army style: “November! – alpha!– November! – golf! – Oscar! – Lima! – Oscar!”. Friendly and convincing. On his way to Rustenburg from Oranjemund (or Port Nolloth?) to deliver or pick up mining equipment. Works on the diamond mines in Namibia. Eagerly wants to buy my car. Offers much less at first, but swiftly agrees to my much higher minimum, without further haggling.


    Here is the plan, stripped to its bare essentials,and executed by means of numerous phone calls:




    • Day 1, phase 1: First I must buy Johannes MTN airtime. He is unable to do so, being en route fromNamibia to Rustenburg. He has to call his wife, “Maria”, internationally, at home in Oshakati (“910 Sam Nujoma Str, Oshakati”) to explain the transaction to her and convince her to approve his purchase of the car (“you know women!”). I oblige.
    • Can I meet him in Rustenburg? No, I cannot. No problem.The plan advances smoothly along a different path.
    • At “Johannes”’s insistence, I also phone his "wife", “Maria” “in Oshakati” (cell phone: 00264813325793) to request her to phone him. She answers, sounds legitimate.
    • Johannes later “whatsapp’ed”me a copy of his Namibian passport (genuine, false or stolen? – see copy below). The number is P0413356.
    • “Johannes” also suggested that I call his supervisor, “Sakkie” or “Sakusa” at 0604879579, at the Namibian mine where he works. Sakkie will vouch for his authenticity. (I did not call Sakkie.)
    • Now the plan: “Johannes” will pay the purchase price (R380k) plus an additional R30k, ie a total of R410k into my bank account. (The extra money is for the taxes that his driver will have to pay at the Namibian border when taking the car across, and of course, I can subtract my airtime expenses from this amount.) (The driver will fly from Windhoek to collect the car (“Will I meet him at the airport? No? No problem – he'll l take a taxi”).
    • I must go to the Police and draw up an affidavit, setting out the particulars of the transaction. That will enable the driver to take the car across the border, etc.
    • I give him my bank account particulars for the payment.
    • Day 2, phase 2:Frieda”from “Bank Windhoek” in “Oshakati” calls to confirm my banking details in order to transfer the R410k. (All calls from “the bank” show “No Caller ID”.) (I later Googled Bank Windhoek: apparently no branch in Oshakati.) Frieda informs me that the money will reflect in my account immediately, but that it will only be released for my use in 21 days, unless an “immediate release fee” of approx. R22k is paid. I express my displeasure, indicating that I now consider cancelling the deal.
    • The phone calls resume, indicating that wife Maria has now arrived at the bank. She is ready to authorise the transfer of R410k into my account, but unfortunately she has only R13k in cash to pay for the “immediate release fee”. To speed up the transaction, can I pay R9000 in the meantime to make up the difference? Of course I can recoup the R9000 from the “extra” R30k that will be paid over to me within minutes. I hesitate. Now Johannes steps in with incessant phonecalls, unbelievable pressure and an array of tactics, leaving no time for reflection, that ultimately, even against my dear spouse’s protestations, bulldozes me into making this payment of R9000 into the following banking account of “the person who is assisting Maria to finalise the transaction” and standing next to her in the bank: K Moleele, ABSA Savings account 9289 017 538 (later the following account is also offered “to speed things up” if ABSA doesn’t work: MG Molefe FNB Savings account 62397697908).
    • Day 3, phase 3: I check my bank account. Nothing. Frieda calls again. Her manager, “Maxwell”, wishes to speak to me. Afrikaans and/or English, African accent, smooth and convincing. Apologises profusely: the inexperienced Frieda had made a calculation mistake. The release fee is not R22k, but actually R28 431. Can I please pay an additional R6 431 to enable them to release my money immediately? I ask for his phone number at the bank. He gives me 0026461256371. (Fake: I later Google it and end up at “BusinessVibes” in Swakopmund who is obviously not involved in this scheme.) Only now does the rat smell strongly enough for me to back off and take my punishment: R9000 down the drain, but not a cent more.
    • Days 4 and 5 and ??: This is not the end of the story. The phone calls from both Johannes and Maxwell, oscillating between pleading and bullying, continue relentlessly: “Quickly pay the R6 431 and the R410k will immediately reflect in my account.” Realising that I had been had good and solid, the only satisfaction I get is to play along, stall them, play them off against each other and sap their phone budget as much as possible.

    KEY POINTS:

    • Names: “Johannes Nangolo”, his “wife” “Maria”, “Frieda” and “Maxwell” from “the bank”.
    • Institutions: “Bank Windhoek”, Namibia, “Oshakati branch”
    • Telephone numbers: 0788644787 (“Johannes Nangolo”); 0729306992 (“Johannes Nongolo”); 00264813325793 (“Maria”,“Johannes’s” wife); 0026461256371 (fake: “Maxwell” and “Frieda” from “Bank Windhoek” in “Oshakati”); 0604879579 (“Sakusa” or “Sakkie”, “Johannes’s”“supervisor” at “the mine in Namibia”)
    • Bank accounts used for payments to Johannes: (1) K Moleele, ABSA Savings account 9289017538 and(2) MG Molefe, FNB Savings account 62397697908 (not fake – they accept money!)
    • Namibian Passport number of “Johannes Nangolo”: P0413356 (see copy/attachment below)
    • Namibian ID number of "Johannes Nangolo": 68121300169
    • I was gullible, but these criminals are professionals. Be warned! Remember that even experts such as LeonSchuster and Wackhead Simpson have been “scammed” themselves!
    • Question 1: Should all advertisers not incessantly telephone / sms “Johannes Nongolo” and request him “to pay back the money” he has stolen (including mine!) (numbers: 0788644787 or 0729306992 or 00264813325793). Somehow we have to strike back ourselves. (I did contact the Police; they more or less shrugged their shoulders.)
    • Question 2: Should all advertisers not insist that AutoTrader and Gumtree add a link on their webpages where stories such as this one can be posted, as a warning to others? Their current warning system and security tips are inadequate.
    • This is a photo of the passport of “Johannes Nangolo” (real, or fake, or stolen and used by the perpetrator?):
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    Thanks for all the effort !
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    Default Re: SCAM: Disco 4 advert leads to “Namibian Truck Driver” fraud of R9000

    This guy tried with same story trying to sell my Serval. He failed to get money from me. Same names same scan.
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    Photo he send me probably fakeIMG-20180608-WA0010.jpg
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    same guy tried me about 3 years ago selling my 4x2 ranger
    sounds ike a copy paste
    only diff is I knew the story was fake and kept him spending time and airtime for about 3 weeks before he realised he is getting played
    at that point all the anger and threats started, knowing where I live, will come visit me bla bla
    ofc he knew nothing
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    Over and above one's own safety precautions. (EG where you meet, what info you share and how you get paid) this one simple rule should be applied:

    If I am selling something there is ABSOLUTELY NO reason why I should be paying anything to anyone. Just say no...

    Not trying to be captain hindsight here, but with that rule at least no one would be scammed in the same way...
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    Shame man, sorry you got scammed, but yes, you should never have to pay if you are selling.

    This is the same scam they use when you win the "lottery", you have to pay 2000 or 10000 or whatever amount they decide, then the bank will clear your millions. It doesn't make any sense at all to have to pay, heck, just subtract it from your millions.

    Another red flag should have been that if the buyer had 410k lying around, why did he not have the 22k lying around to pay the transfer fees?

    PS, a similar scam going around on facebook, where the guys target single older women. They claim to be from America, but they have lots of money. Then they will come here for business, and come visit their new "love". Next thing they are stuck at some airport, and their deal hasn't paid out yet, they just need x amount to get to South Africa to sort out the deal, and they will bring you the money when they come visit you.
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    Ek en "Johannes" is al OU pelle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petri Oosthuizen View Post
    Ek en "Johannes" is al OU pelle.

    Elke keer as ek 'n kar adverteer bel hy my, die sleg bliksem.
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    There is a Bank Windhoek branch in Oshakati. You need to click next on their list of branches:

    Branch Name: Oshakati
    Branch Code: 482673
    Region: Oshana
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    Address: 1348 Main Road
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    ek adverteer nie baie karre op gumtree nie, maar die dag as ek doen dan is ons vriend Johannes die eerste om te bel. snaaks dat hy oor al die jare steeds hou by dieselfde storie. trokdrywer van namibie, wil in Rustenburg ontmoet, ens.
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    snaaks dat hy oor al die jare steeds hou by dieselfde storie.
    Hoekom sal mens nou aan 'n wenresep wil verander?😀

    Duidelik werk die 'scam' en is daar nog mense wat daarvoor val.
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    Very interesting, the same truck driver dude had me drive all the way to Vereeniging a few years ago to buy my caravan via an Autotrader ad.
    He got in the car with me asking that I take him to jewellery store to get the money.
    I managed to drop him off and ran for the hills as I realised it was a scam.
    Thanks for warning everyone.

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    BTW, the guy on the passport is not the local Johannes, probably stolen passport/ID.

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    "Hoekom sal mens nou aan 'n wenresep wil verander?😀
    Duidelik werk die 'scam' en is daar nog mense wat daarvoor val."

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    He tried me as well about a year ago when selling my mk1 Ford Escort, I Called his son in Namibia who said he cant send airtime as hes on the farm. asked me to buy him airtime to call the wife, being a stingy student i said no. He then said he'd meet me at the bank. Then it was meet me at Kempton Park to which i replied no.

    After the airtime ordeal i smelt a rat.

    Remember: When selling things, if the buyer really wants it, he'll make a plan. (Thats what i told him). I said id keep the car, when he has airtime to call his wife and can come view it he can have it.

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