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    Question What oils to use

    So i am at this point were i want to change the gearbox oils and diff oils can anybody help on this, the Disco is a v6 4l S, would want to stay away from the stealers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markbay View Post
    So i am at this point were i want to change the gearbox oils and diff oils can anybody help on this, the Disco is a v6 4l S, would want to stay away from the stealers.
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    Gearbox (zf 6hp26 auto) there are options for Fuchs 4134 (some members on forum even use 4400 with repordedly very good results, although that is not stictly speaking the recommended oil, don't know if it is better or just different from 4134). About R150 a liter. Ravenol 6HP from sosoil.co.za is also a possibility. There is also a liqui moly gearbox oil if you can find it... The price on the gearbox oils matters because the volumes for double flush are huge. The diff oils I'm still looking for alternatives, but might just consider the prescribed dealer oils, because volumes are small. The transfer case and rear diff have the most specific requirements due to their locking nature.

    Ps, I report this since I'm researching this myself, but there are probably experts on the forum with much more experience on these matters.
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    Thanks seem to be a challenge in pinpointing all the correct oils, would not want to use the incorrect oils and create damage.

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    I have used fuchs 4400 and my box is smooth! I also have 10litres left as I ordered a 20L. I'm near PMB if you ever through this side of KZN

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    What about Fuchs ATF 6000 SL....isnt that also a good one for the gearbox?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markbay View Post
    So i am at this point were i want to change the gearbox oils and diff oils can anybody help on this, the Disco is a v6 4l S, would want to stay away from the stealers.
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    Hi Mark

    contact Saun from "the gearbox company" in Midrand. He will tell you which oils to use.

    sean@thegearboxcompany.co.za

    The leading indies in Gauteng use him for the various gearbox jobs.

    Saun's workshop does 90%+ Land Rover boxes only.

    They are the best for us here north of the Vaal River and north of the Natal Drakensberg.
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    I compared these 3 Castrol limited slip diff oils with interesting results. It seems they have the exact same composition save for 0.1% of a newly added additive.
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    Cool thanks for all the info so far,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noel Arbuthnot View Post
    What about Fuchs ATF 6000 SL....isnt that also a good one for the gearbox?
    Any opinions? Seems to be the ultimate top of the range fully synthetic. An indie here in Durban uses nothing else.

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    Mine is going in for a service and double flush tomorrow. Going to use Fuchs Titan ATF 6000 SL. Wil report back later on the preformance but I was told this bearbox oil will work. About R80 per liter excl VAT. Bought 20l at R1811.

    Lets wait and see.

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    I would go with Fuchs 4134 or 4400 if using Fuchs. The 4134 is recommended by their own oil advisor by car & model. The 4400, appears to work, but cheaper oil so would change more often. It may be a better bet when towing to change more frequently- say every 30-40k than only every 60-80k with more expensive oil.
    See http://fuchs-eu.lubricantadvisor.com...&isKioskMode=0

    I went with the Liqui Moly ATF1800 as recommended by their oil advisor at R132/lt for 1lt bottles.
    http://www.liqui-moly.com/liquimoly/...oil_guide.html

    Fuchs only had ATF4400 for around the same price as the LiquiMoly when I bought.

    Redline has a lot more specs to it, but I do not know enough about aTF oil. Ther are SA distributors on international dist section http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=115&pcid=9
    http://chemsailoils.co.za/
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    I did my Touareg with Fuchs 4400. No problems on my side. Just smooth shifting.

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    And more on the subject.
    Last edited by Kootsoo; 2014/10/07 at 10:56 PM.

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    The Fuchs 4400 is much further from the ideal choice than any of the others.
    From the tech data below, seems the Fuchs Titan 6000 SL is a direct upgrade on the Fuchs Titan 4134.
    Incidentally, Sean of " the gearbox company" uses Fuchs Titan 6000 SL in his personal Disco 3.
    Seems to me that if you choose Fuchs, it's either 4134 or 6000.

    TECH DATA

    Fuchs Titan 4134

    Density at 15C DIN 51757 0.850 g/ml
    Colour Visual Red
    Flash Point, CoC DIN ISO 2592 200C
    Pour Point DIN ISO 3016 -51C
    Foaming Tendency Seq. I ASTM D 892 0/0 ml
    Foaming Tendency Seq. II ASTM D 892 10/0 ml
    Foaming Tendency Seq. III ASTM D 892 0/0 ml
    Dynamic Viscosity at -40C DIN 51398 8,500 mPas
    Kinematic Viscosity at 40C DIN 51562-1 29.6 mm2/s
    Kinematic Viscosity at 100C DIN 51562-1 6.5 mm2/s
    Viscosity Index DIN ISO 2909 185

    Fuchs Titan 6000 SL

    Density at 15C DIN 51757 0.846 g/ml
    Colour Visual Red
    Flash Point, CoC DIN ISO 2592 206C
    Pour Point DIN ISO 3016 -54C
    Foaming Tendency Seq. I/II/III ASTM D 892 5/0 ml
    Dynamic Viscosity at - 40C DIN 51398 12,000 mPas
    Kinematic Viscosity at 40C DIN 51562-1 29.8 mm/s
    Kinematic Viscosity at 100C DIN 51562-1 6.0 mm/s
    Viscosity Index DIN ISO 2909 151

    Fuchs Titan 4400

    Density at 15C DIN 51757 0.852 g/ml
    Colour Visual red
    Flash Point, CoC DIN ISO 2592 216C
    Pour Point DIN ISO 3016 -43C
    Dynamic Viscosity at - 40C DIN 51398 17,000 mPas
    Kinematic Viscosity at 40C DIN 51562-1 37.3 mm/s
    Kinematic Viscosity at 100C DIN 51562-1 7.3 mm/s
    Viscosity Index DIN ISO 2909 165

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    If used by Sean, +100 then for Titan 6000sl. Do you know at what frequency Sean recommends changing when not towing & towing?
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    There is also an add on Gumtree selling oil at a good price.
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    Guys,

    I have just done a double flush with Fuchs Titan 6000 SL yesterday and I can't believe the difference. Added Tranny Fix as well. I can't beleive the smooth changing compared to before the change. First gearbox oil change in 180k km.

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    Do u guys reckon its good to put in Tranny fix if the gearbix has not shown any funny signs? My disco is on 296000km and the torque converter has been replaced 20 000km ago and the oil flushed and filled with Titan 6000SL a couple months ago. It performs beautifully right now...so i feel a bit uncomfortable to put in additives at this stage...but then im just an average joe when it comes to technical knowledge. The indie that did the flush doesn't think its a good idea for additives if there arent any problems. What do u guys think?
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