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    Made headlines yesterday on KFM (Cape's largest radio station)
    The SANDF is in trouble for punishing five soldiers with CB drill (for the younger generation, it's confined to barracks and hard PT drill etc)
    They awolled and went to a nearby pub in full uniform. After being caught red handed they were given the CB drill etc. The unions jumped in and caused all hell, how can you drill soldiers in such a manner ..... and, and ..

    Now let me think back to my army days, look at "Die Koporaal" skeef ...... CB, sloppy bed at inspection ....... CB, rifle not looking like it came out of the factory ...... CB
    Going to civvie pub, on awol in uniform ...... DB (Detention Barracks, Jail for those who don't know, a place NO ONE wanted to be) no questions asked. You would have been drilled until hospital in some cases.
    What has happened to the SADF, no wonder we are getting our backsides kicked in the Congo, no dam discipline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Faddel View Post
    Going to civvie pub, on awol in uniform ...... DB (Detention Barracks, Jail for those who don't know, a place NO ONE wanted to be) no questions asked. You would have been drilled until hospital in some cases.
    What has happened to the SADF, no wonder we are getting our backsides kicked in the Congo, no dam discipline
    Blou staaldak vir 2 weke, vra my ek weet......, jy gaan PP terwyl jy makeer die pas!!! (No: 2 mag jy darem gaan sit, vir 2 min)

    Dit is 'n sirkus (hulle het net meer tente) en ek kry die ou PF manne jammer wat nog in die ou dae met ordentlikke troepe gewerk het, en nou moet sukkel met die lot. Soveel van my vriende wat agter gebly het het net eenvoudig die mag verlaat en is nou ongelukkig in ander poste, ouens wat in murg en been militariste is doen nou office Johny werk.....
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    Ja...seen this coming

    Went into our local EP command the other day, there is rotting food lying all over the lawns behind the buildings...and lots of it....
    broken windows on all the buildings, derelict vehicles, not to mention the impound where they keep all the wrecked vehicles...sheeeeesh!!!

    and to cap it off we got stopped on the way out by a sersant on guard duty with an R5 in his hands who was so stoned and drunk that he could hardly keep his eyes open let alone talk as he was slurring so much...

    bloody disgrace if you ask me.

    In my day of national service, this would never have happened, would hardly have been a blade of grass out of place.

    All I can say is God help us if there's ever a war.

    Possibly the only saving grace would be the fact that all the guys over 40 know how to use weapons etc etc thanks to national service.

    Wouldnt want to be PF now, must be a sheeeet place to work, demoralising.
    Would like to hear from guys who are in the service full time.

    I must add though that this might only be the case here in PE. not sure on other bases.
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    With a army like this it's not going to be difficult overturning the government... just saying...

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    We are 8 to 4 soldiers !! And the troops are running the units due to who sleeps with who .
    No offence to women but they should have been kept in their own units like at George in the older days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jislaaik View Post
    With a army like this it's not going to be difficult overturning the government... just saying...
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    There is no such thing as SANDF anymore , Its a camp where you get free boarding and lay under the tree's all day long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itchy & Scratchy View Post

    I must add though that this might only be the case here in PE. not sure on other bases.
    Nope, Kimberley same problem (Than again Diskobolos was never a show piece unit) what makes me sad is 8SAI (Upington) it was our pride, the beautiful lawns, and well maintained bungalows are no more....
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    Ag shame! Arme kinders!! Hulle is GROOT MANNE as hulle kan AWOL en nog in 'n publieke kroeg in uniform kan gaan uithang, maar word uitgebeeld as KINDERS as hulle gevang is en goed OPGE@%! is!
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    Seems there are another side to the story. From a news report yesterday it seems that they had to hold up poles and when failing they were beaten on the arms with a broomstick. The one guy is apparently in danger of losing his arm. They reportedly were all threaded for bruises and this guy with the arm was hospitalized. Not saying the info is correct but that was what the first report said. Since then there has been a clampdown on news from the base.

    Given hard exercise is one thing, but to beat guys in such a way that they are in danger of losing a limb is not on in my book.

    I see this is reflected in the link in the previous post.
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    Yes Cobus, maybe a bit to far, but I dont think the troopies nowadays get OpF*k"s like we use to.

    These are necessary to induce discipline when in need in a fighting situation....when you are given an order you do it!!! otherwise you might be dead....and your buds.

    I wonder if nowadays it would be....

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    Ja, there is such a thing as too far, but the state of the military at this stage is a damn shame. If there is ever a war we don't have a hope in hell...

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    Eish Ma. Hulle het my cellphone gevat. Nou kan ek nie kla nie want die tikkiebox hy werk nie meer nie.

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    Was chatting to my son a few days ago.... this country... is ripe for a takeover. There is NO military to speak of.
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    Maybe this situation was taken a bit to far, judging by the pictures I saw on the iol website, however discipline is seriously lacking at all levels in our now unionized SANDF.

    I did my bit and yes the OpF*&^&&Ks were certainly not fun, nor where they physically violent to the point of bodily harm, but hell they got the message across very clearly and did wonders for my mental and physical fitness.

    I wonder if the defence forces in the "real world" tolerate their troops being members of unions?

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    Hi Sandjan


    Unfortunately we as "outsiders" only get to see the visual aspect or perception of what is going on because we drive passed or go into the camps that used to be well kept etc and they are in a pathetic state of disrepair.......this leads us to generalise a bit.


    FACT - there is no doubt that South African fighters used to be rated amongst the best of the world, especially in bush fitting scenario"s but I wonder how that statement stands up now.


    The loss of any soldiers life is a regrettable one, in England every single soldier that is killed is treated to a hero's homecoming , people line the streets to pay their last respects and throw flowers, in my opinion this is as it should be. they are fighting to protect us , although in the case of the CAR ,the man in the street didnt even know they were there, let alone weather they should have been or not..


    I dont think the slapg*t hanger onners that are manning the bases now could care less if their own people live or die, as long as their pockets are full.......if you know what i mean.

    I for one would love to be proud of our boys in uniform, the military should also be a place where youngsters should want to join as a career, and strive to increase their knowledge and standing in life.

    I may be wrong but thats my feeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZuluCowboy View Post
    Was chatting to my son a few days ago.... this country... is ripe for a takeover. There is NO military to speak of.
    Who in his right mind would want to take over the shambles left by the A&C?

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    This may be controversial but it is back to the basics:

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