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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    some fun on the way home tonight


    Hehehe! Daddy, why you scream like a girl? ;-)))

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    Camped at dad's place over the weekend.

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    some serious towing going on in USA with their touaregs

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    There are nice combinations on the thread that came off. They certainly tow big things in the USA. I see they all fit electronic brake regualtors on the big loads, have never seen those in SA, but would certainly make things safer.
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    A very comprehensive thread regarding phaeton/touareg air suspension coding via VCDS

    http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?2055204

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    I see these guys also do their deliveries with a V10, probably not a lot of vehicles around which can tow these vans

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    This is what happens when you use the wrong oil

    http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f9...tml#post832338

    So, as I promised, I did a complete disassembly of my engine. (With pics ;-) )
    Stripped engine block:






    Oil sump:



    Little mix of piston:





    Some other piston pieces:





    A mega watch:



    Crankshaft and pistons out:



    Now everything is out of the engine block. Let's start clean the parts and examine.



    Main bearings:



    Con rod bearings:



    They don't look good. Maybe the wrong oil??
    Camshaft bearings:



    They show some wear but no scratches.
    The crankshaft:



    696 pistons:



    The 2nd pistons shows also signs of wear just as cylinder 2.



    No camshaft wear:



    Only the first cylinder lobes are worn:



    The hydraulic lifter is smashed:



    I think that the wrong oil was used. It's no normal wear, certainly not after only 120 000km.

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    Surely up to 120 000km you let the dealers service the vehicle. Unless this okey tried to save some bucks to service themselves and used the wrong oil.
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    Ask your local dealer to service your R5 and 9 times out of 10 they will use 507.00 instead of 505.01/506.01.

    Our dealer here in EL only keeps and stocks 507.00

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    Eish, surely any dealer of SA must be ISO certified..... and that mistake should never happen. At least I know for sure that VW in Uitenhage know which oil to use for their vehicles. Can't say that much for the dealer in PE thou..... had my mishaps with them with my Amarok. Luckily I phoned to confirm which oil they are going to use. I cancelled my service and drove the 25 odd km to Uitenhage and got sorted properly. They even offer Tuesday night services for folks like me that work till 16:45 in the evening and use my vehicle during the day.
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    Ask your local dealer to service your R5 and 9 times out of 10 they will use 507.00 instead of 505.01/506.01.<br />
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    Our dealer here in EL only keeps and stocks 507.00<br/>

    This brings me to a point I wanted to make earlier. In another thread it was mentioned that owners of these vehicles whom actually look after their vehicles and have them serviced by dealers will know the oil being used....I am playing devil's advocate so please do not stone me for saying this....in taking a vehicle to a dealer, especially when still under motorplan you as owner would expect the service centre to use the correct parts and lubricants hence why it is expected under guarantee for you to have the vehicle serviced by them. So for those less technically inclined even though you look after your car the best you can, knowing what is going into it by the service centres are done so in trust - they should know best, not so? Where am I then going with this? In saying then that if an owner had looked after his vehicle he would know what is going into the car inherintly means that even though you might be less technically inclined, in trusting the service centre to then service your vehicle per their specifications and under motorplan, this relays to you not having looked after your vehicle? Would this then not alos dictate that no R5 or V10 for that matter serviced under warranty and motorplan had ever received the correct oil thereby thus prompting potential buyers of these vehicles that they will in due course incur major engin problems as a result.

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    Not all dealers operate equally. 507.00 is not that old and some dealers know that certain oils are specced and use them appropriately.

    Hence why a vcds scan on the injectors is crucial before purchase as it can i dicate, low compression, bad camshafts and bad injectors.

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    Not all dealers operate equally. 507.00 is not that old and some dealers know that certain oils are specced and use them appropriately.<br />
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    Hence why a vcds scan on the injectors is crucial before purchase as it can i dicate, low compression, bad camshafts and bad injectors.<br/>

    In essence it boils down to the fact then that even when buying a vehicle with a full dealership service history this means nothing as unless you are in possession of or can obtain the service records you are not at all guanrenteed of whether your vehilce of interest has in fact been serviced to spec.

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    Correct. I have never looked at serviced records when buying a car......then again my luck with my cars havent been rosy.

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    Please correct me if Im wrong. It is then possible to check what oil was used during it's services as the invoice states the oil...... even the document that indicates the job card number.
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    very few dealers put that much detail on the records. And then it could be wrong as well.

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    Have to agree with Marius, when I first took ownership of my Treg, I booked her in for a dealer service, after they lightened my wallet, I examined the invoice, it showed a part number for 10 litres of oil. I called the parts department and found that the part number was for 507 spec oil. I immediately contacted the service manager who knew nothing about 505.01/506.01 and maintained that 507 is the higher number so is fine. That is when I gave up on dealers completely.

    WRT to the engine failure above, it looks like a serious case of oil starvation, probably due to extended service intervals and sludge. could also be caused by diesel / water contamination.
    The bearings show a serious lack of oil
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    All manufacturer's dealers are mandated to make sure the vehicle only makes it past the warranty period. At the lowest cost to the company.

    Work that out for yourselves.

    They actually couldn't give a toss about anything that happens afterwards because they make 4 x the vehicle's value in spares over the lifetime of the car.
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    http://www.wesellcars.co.za/listing/...di_v10_at_2358

    Selling so far under trade? Methinks people are realising that high mileage Tregs are time-bombs?
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    Yoh! And we thought Marius's one cylinder/piston looked bad. Surely there is nothing to salvage on that engine.

    Many R5's and most V10's are doomed due to the wrong oil being used by the dealerships. Service history by the dealerships means nothing, except some assurance that some sort of service was done. That stamp is not worth anything.

    My Audi A4 is supposed to have a cambelt change at 100 k km's or 5 years, whatever comes first. I recently had a time based service done at Audi (5 years) and told them not to do the cambelt, as I might sell the car soon. No problem, the book still gets the stamp. As a buyer you think because there is an agent service history, everything is done by the book, - not so. I'll get Tim to do the belt now, as it looks like I'm keeping her.
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