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    just phoned VW

    Me : Hi, I need transfer case oil for my car. Part number G 052 515 A2
    Dealer : Where did you get that part number? We don't keep stock and we have never sold that here.
    Me : That's the oil for a transfer case on a touareg.
    Dealer : Oh, what's your VIN, let me just double check.
    Me : My VIN is xxxxxxxxx

    .....pause......

    Dealer : The oil I got listed is G 055 025 A2
    Me : No, that's the autobox ATF oil.
    Dealer : What do you mean?
    Me : The car has an automatic gearbox and then a transfer case with clutches in for the 4x4 system. The transfer case does not use ATF. It uses a different oil.
    Dealer : Are you sure?
    Me : Yes, I know the car extremely well.
    Dealer : hang on let me just check again........... yes, you are right.
    Me : OK, send me the invoice so I can make payment so you can order the oil.

    Shocking!

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    Shocking!
    Yes Marius, shocking indeed!

    But why am I not the least surprised?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    just phoned VW

    Me : Hi, I need transfer case oil for my car. Part number G 052 515 A2
    Dealer : Where did you get that part number? We don't keep stock and we have never sold that here.
    Me : That's the oil for a transfer case on a touareg.
    Dealer : Oh, what's your VIN, let me just double check.
    Me : My VIN is xxxxxxxxx

    .....pause......

    Dealer : The oil I got listed is G 055 025 A2
    Me : No, that's the autobox ATF oil.
    Dealer : What do you mean?
    Me : The car has an automatic gearbox and then a transfer case with clutches in for the 4x4 system. The transfer case does not use ATF. It uses a different oil.
    Dealer : Are you sure?
    Me : Yes, I know the car extremely well.
    Dealer : hang on let me just check again........... yes, you are right.
    Me : OK, send me the invoice so I can make payment so you can order the oil.

    Shocking!
    Terrible! All the dealers are interested in doing is putting the absolute least amount of effort/money in, in order to get your car out of the warranty period/service plan without a breakdown... They dont have the consumers interest at heart.

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    Pathetic to say the least. If the vehicle was with them, they would probably even put the ATF in the transfer case. It will break and they will deny, deny, deny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    just phoned VW

    Me : Hi, I need transfer case oil for my car. Part number G 052 515 A2
    Dealer : Where did you get that part number? We don't keep stock and we have never sold that here.
    Me : That's the oil for a transfer case on a touareg.
    Dealer : Oh, what's your VIN, let me just double check.
    Me : My VIN is xxxxxxxxx

    .....pause......

    Dealer : The oil I got listed is G 055 025 A2
    Me : No, that's the autobox ATF oil.
    Dealer : What do you mean?
    Me : The car has an automatic gearbox and then a transfer case with clutches in for the 4x4 system. The transfer case does not use ATF. It uses a different oil.
    Dealer : Are you sure?
    Me : Yes, I know the car extremely well.
    Dealer : hang on let me just check again........... yes, you are right.
    Me : OK, send me the invoice so I can make payment so you can order the oil.

    Shocking!


    Hello Marius, welcome to the "rainbow nation" the "new" South Africa.

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    Sligthly off the topic, for those T2 V6 TDi 3.0 owners out there, I had been searching for the correct spec oil (507.00) from Midas and other outlets but in the end turned to the dealers as I was unable to find anything locally offered which conforms to the prescrbed spec.

    On a recent visit abroad, I came across these though, maybe some of you have spotted it somewhere locally available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    serviced the car tonight.

    I went through the whole effort of taking the tappet cover off and sacrificing a liter of clean oil to flush all the dirty oil away in the valve train area. I also poured some clean oil in the filter housing to flush the dirty oil out as well. Then after the old oil has drained, I poured about 500ml of clean oil in the filler cap and let that drain as well.

    I'm sure I got most of the dirty oil out.

    I will now check how quickly the oil goes black.

    So far after 5 minutes of idling the dipstick still show perfectly new golden oil.

    I used Shell Helix HX7 AV oil. Shell charged me R84/liter. Goldwagen wanted R185/liter

    It is a 5w-30 oil as opposed to the Fuchs I used before that was a 5w-40. I will report back after my next drive I can notice a difference in the engine, oil temp and economy.

    266523km on the clock now.
    266751km now

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    just phoned VW

    Me : Hi, I need transfer case oil for my car. Part number G 052 515 A2
    Dealer : Where did you get that part number? We don't keep stock and we have never sold that here.
    Me : That's the oil for a transfer case on a touareg.
    Dealer : Oh, what's your VIN, let me just double check.
    Me : My VIN is xxxxxxxxx

    .....pause......

    Dealer : The oil I got listed is G 055 025 A2
    Me : No, that's the autobox ATF oil.
    Dealer : What do you mean?
    Me : The car has an automatic gearbox and then a transfer case with clutches in for the 4x4 system. The transfer case does not use ATF. It uses a different oil.
    Dealer : Are you sure?
    Me : Yes, I know the car extremely well.
    Dealer : hang on let me just check again........... yes, you are right.
    Me : OK, send me the invoice so I can make payment so you can order the oil.

    Shocking!
    Let me guess....... you never tried Market Square VW Uitenhage, accross the VW factory...... they know their products (after sales) very well. Lyk my julle slammies ouens wil nie hoor nie.
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    Probleem is Marius is `n tegniese Wunderkind. 99,9% voertuig eienaars ken nie die verskil tussen olie en stroop nie. Marius gaan op tegniese spesifikasies wat 100% reg is. Die agente ken ook nie die verkil tussen stroop en olie nie. Ek en Delta het jare terug `n geveg gehad oor die olie van `n 2.8 Isuzu. Hulle olie spek het nie aan die Noord Kaapse temperature voldoen nie. Selfs op my Hilux SFA van donkie jare terug het die Mechie nie geweet wat is die verskil tussen GL4 EN GL5 ratkas oilie nie.

    Wees maar kalm die hanelaars moer al lankal verkeerde olies in voertuie. Jy weet dit nie eens Meneer.

    Marius se tegniese belangstelling en kennis boul die senter pen. Hoeveel manne op die Forum kan die speks op `n blikkie olie lees en verstaan.
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    flushed the brake fluid today. I'm glad I did. The old fluid looked like that mint flavour borstol!

    Dot 4 fluid.
    Crack the nipple (11mm spanner - don't use the open end. Use the ring)
    Use a clear hose over the nipple into a container
    Have a helper pump the brake slowly while the nipple is open. You can keep the nipple open. Just keep pumping slowly and topping up the reservoir.
    Close when fluid is clear.
    Keep topping up the reservoir.
    I pulled 250ml through at each corner.

    To make life a little easier, it's a good idea to extract the old fluid out of the reservoir with a turkey baster and filling with fresh fluid before starting.

    If you spill brake fluid make sure to rinse it off with plenty of water. Brake fluid eats paintwork like a bunny in a carrot factory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    flushed the brake fluid today. I'm glad I did. The old fluid looked like that mint flavour borstol!

    Dot 4 fluid.
    Crack the nipple (11mm spanner - don't use the open end. Use the ring)
    Use a clear hose over the nipple into a container
    Have a helper pump the brake slowly while the nipple is open. You can keep the nipple open. Just keep pumping slowly and topping up the reservoir.
    Close when fluid is clear.
    Keep topping up the reservoir.
    I pulled 250ml through at each corner.

    To make life a little easier, it's a good idea to extract the old fluid out of the reservoir with a turkey baster and filling with fresh fluid before starting.

    If you spill brake fluid make sure to rinse it off with plenty of water. Brake fluid eats paintwork like a bunny in a carrot factory!
    Marius that is the way I always did it, starting with the wheel furthest from the master cylinder. Is it the same with a vehicle with ABS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Marius that is the way I always did it, starting with the wheel furthest from the master cylinder. Is it the same with a vehicle with ABS?
    I did this no problem on my touareg and many cars and bikes without hassles.

    Just don't do it on a BMW 1200 GS with servo brakes. Don't ask....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    I did this no problem on my touareg and many cars and bikes without hassles.

    Just don't do it on a BMW 1200 GS with servo brakes. Don't ask....


    Why.


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    In short.

    The fluid circuit at the hand brake never reaches the wheel. It has a separate circuit.

    You have to take the fuel tank off and bleed via the six nipples on the servo pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    In short.

    The fluid circuit at the hand brake never reaches the wheel. It has a separate circuit.

    You have to take the fuel tank off and bleed via the six nipples on the servo pump.


    O I see

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    Changed the front and rear diff oil today.

    The rear was as black as old diesel engine oil.

    The front was also almost black with a bit of red tint to it as well.

    I havent got the right tool to get the gearbox plugs out and my transfer case oil hasnt arrived yet. So those will follow shortly.


    Urrrghhhh. Diff oil is a nasty smelling oil!!!

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    Good thing you did it then. What tool is required for the box?
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    18mm allen key.

    I had a bolt with an 18mm head, but i couldnt get the two nuts on the thread to bite hard enough for me to undo the fill bolt.

    The drain bolt should be easy, it's a small torx.

    I always get the fill bolt out before I touch the drain bolt. I made that mistake only once in my life.

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    Correction. 17mm.

    I used a wheel nut's nut end with thread and flanges ground off with a breaker bar and 17mm socket to get the gearbox's filler plug off.

    All oils changed.

    Car is at 267'000km and....

    Rear diff was dark black
    Front diff was moderate to dark black
    Transfer case was dark black
    Gearbox was medium black

    Glad I changed them all out.

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