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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    bly alles weer reg, nou moet hulle net betaal vir hul vuil brandstof
    As die toetse vuil of parafien brandstof wys gaan ek meer as dit claim.

    Mens weet nie watse issues le en wag vorentoe in terme van die diesel pomp, injectors etc.

    Nie te noem die ongerief en my ure se werk in die kar en my versekering se uitgawes.

    As hulle skuldig bevind word gaan ek hulle skoonmakers toe vat. Dit is uiters onaanvaarbare optrede om diesel so te voorsien tot die nagevolge van die verbruikers.

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    So eintlik het jy nou bewys dat die addition van 2SO nie n verskil maak as jy slegte diesel / parafien kry nie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bvandyk View Post
    So eintlik het jy nou bewys dat die addition van 2SO nie n verskil maak as jy slegte diesel / parafien kry nie?
    Imagine what would have happened had there not been 2SO. Maybe all 5 injectors would have went or a hole in the piston....

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    here is a cool diagram I found of the touareg's fuel tank

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    The point is, 2SO did not prevent damage
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    Quote Originally Posted by bvandyk View Post
    The point is, 2SO did not prevent damage
    Correct but it possibly minimized damage.

    All this is pure speculation though as I'm still waiting for the test results.

    I'm not sure how truthful the results will be as the repercussions for the garage owner will be pretty pricey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvandyk View Post
    The point is, 2SO did not prevent damage
    What damage was incurred?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bvandyk View Post
    The point is, 2SO did not prevent damage
    Says who, or what?

    It will be difficult to prove anything either way.
    The fact that the Touareg ran for 100km before one (the worst?) injector started misfiring is significant, though.
    Would it have played up earlier if no 2SO was present? Who knows?

    The pro-2SO crowd will believe that it saved the engine from fatal failure, while the anti-2SO faction will jeer and say it did nothing to safeguard the engine.

    Everybody to his own (opinion).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    What damage was incurred?
    So far as I can tell up to this point, one injector failed and the fuel filter took a dump.

    I don't know what lies in wait for me a few weeks/months down the line.

    That is why I will claim for all systems that could effected if the fuel sample test reveals dodgy fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4eJunior View Post
    Says who, or what?

    It will be difficult to prove anything either way.
    The fact that the Touareg ran for 100km before one (the worst?) injector started misfiring is significant, though.
    Would it have played up earlier if no 2SO was present? Who knows?

    The pro-2SO crowd will believe that it saved the engine from fatal failure, while the anti-2SO faction will jeer and say it did nothing to safeguard the engine.

    Everybody to his own (opinion).
    Its not about being pro or anti 2SO. Its about looking objectively at this case study.
    I use 2SO myself.
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    Will the Fuel station be liable or will the transport company or even the supllier be held liable. I know a case like this could take months, even years to be solve.

    I know SASOL only use their own trucks, as a preventative measure for ensuring the correct fuel gets transported, and clean fuel of course.

    Other companies use transport companies where a better chance of contamination can occur. So the Service/Fuel station got a few legs to stand on.

    Off the topic, 2SO topic is like the topic you discuss of which brand of fuel is better, I prefer SASOL, because of the chemical additives they use for common rail diesels, maybe they even use 2SO themselve....?

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    Any news from BP and their tests of the fuel samples? It would be interesting to know if they picked up the 2SO in your tank sample and what they make of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Shirt View Post
    Any news from BP and their tests of the fuel samples? It would be interesting to know if they picked up the 2SO in your tank sample and what they make of it.
    They promised me results friday.
    They promised me results today.

    Just another south african service compliance norm.

    Hopefully tomorrow as that's another day in Africa.

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    Results : No contamination.

    Still awaiting the official report.

    I don't believe it for one second. How is it that fresh fuel resolved the issue?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    Results : No contamination.

    Still awaiting the official report.

    I don't believe it for one second. How is it that fresh fuel resolved the issue?

    Sounds so familiar!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    Results : No contamination.

    Still awaiting the official report.

    I don't believe it for one second. How is it that fresh fuel resolved the issue?

    I suppose it depends totally on what they had tested for - if they only tested for parafin and none was found, then according to them there are no contamination - if they had widened their scope of testing then perhaps other contaminants would be picked up and present - hence them not reporting any 2SO either. Best would obviously be to wait for the report to see exactly the scope and extent they had gone through in testing.

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    Can't you have it tested by a 3rd party?
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    perhaps a catch 22.

    Had I not used 2SO the results may have shown bad diesel, but then the failure might have been a lot worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogaards View Post
    Can't you have it tested by a 3rd party?
    It would cost nearly a R1k and it would be informative only. I would have no recourse as they have already used their "independent" testers.

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    Walk away from it.
    You won't win by correspondence, and won't have the money to fight such a large company in court.
    There are so many things, like
    • siphoning fuel from the tank
    • 2SO
    • the time that elapsed after the fill up.
    • proof that it was still the diesel you bought in CT
    • etc. etc.

    which make the chances of winning a court case very slim in any case.
    It could have been worse!

    (PS You have much more exciting matters that should take up your time at the moment!! )

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