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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    For the first time since owning the car I started it at sub 7 degrees temperature yesterday morning and glad to say my webasto heater is working perfectly. Engine coolant was at 90 degrees within 3 km of easy driving.

    You can see the heater working by looking under the passenger door for a slight puff of exhaust from the heater. The operation however is silent and not audible over the engine.


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    Excellent!!! It is always nice when things work as they should....



    Webasto AUX Heater:

    1. Noticeable intermittent boiling sound.
    2. Steam purging with pressure release.
    3. Relay clicking sound from passenger side under dash for about 5 mins after heat up.


    At first I thought there was something seriously wrong with the engine when I noticed the weird boiling and clicking relay sounds...

    After some reading on the NET it came to light that this was normal behaviour of AUX heater...


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    Baie geluk met die nuwe enjin vir jou Tuareg, Marius!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    Which HX7? There are a few.

    Only the HX7 AV is the correct one for PD engines.



    http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GPCDOC...en-GB)_TDS.pdf



    I've been looking around and can only get the above HX7 AV in 5W30.
    The recommended oil for the R5 engine is 5W40, which is a thicker oil.

    Is there a big difference between 5W30 and 5W40?

    Being a high grade synthetic oil I think the HX7 AV should not have shear stability and thermal breakdown issues.

    I also think 5W30 will work better with high performance engines.


    I found the following conclusions on the web:

    5W30 will be thinner when hot, so when pushing the engine and creating allot of heat the oil make shear (loosing protection) where as the 40 will stay thicker at the same heat.

    Allegedly the cams can wear out sooner with -30 than -40

    Maybe someone can share their opinion...


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    The hx7 av is a very good oil and my dad has been using it in his v10 (double R5) for many years now and last I scanned his injector deviations it was dead on which means the cams are still 100%. As well as the injectors despite his long term use of 2SO

    I err on the cautious side and get the Fuchs 505.01 5w40 and change every 10'000km.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    The hx7 av is a very good oil and my dad has been using it in his v10 (double R5) for many years now and last I scanned his injector deviations it was dead on which means the cams are still 100%. As well as the injectors despite his long term use of 2SO

    I err on the cautious side and get the Fuchs 505.01 5w40 and change every 10'000km.


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    Thanks for the response...


    I have done some reading on TDIClub.com about this topic.

    Consensus:

    1. There isn't much diffrence in thickness/weight between 5W30 and 5W40 at high temps.
    2. VW and Audi recommends 5W40 OR 5W30.
    3. 5W30 is the newer grade preferred by 505.1 specification.
    4. The use of 505.1 specification on PD engines is the VERY-VERY IMPORTANT factor.



    Well, I don't know how substantial the above information is.
    If your dad has been using HX7 AV 5W30 without any problems, it should work good for my R5...

    If you don't mind me asking; what is mileage on your dad's V10?



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    Hi guys -

    I have always used Castrol Magnatec semi-synthetic in all my vehicles (for the last 12 to 14 years or so). I have never had and trouble with Magnatec at all, and it is relatively affordable. Have any of you tried this before? I have NEVER (and I have been driving relatively high-performance BMW's, turbo-diesels, and now a V had any engine trouble, due to this oil.

    I find it a really great all-rounder?

    Marius - have you tried using Magnatec before in your 2.5 5 cylinder turbo-diesel?
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    Unless it complies with the VW 505.01 spec it should not be used.
    The pump injectors need a very special oil.
    If the wrong oil (as good as it might be for other engines) is used, excessive cam lobe wear will be the result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacquesb View Post
    Hi guys -

    I have always used Castrol Magnatec semi-synthetic in all my vehicles (for the last 12 to 14 years or so). I have never had and trouble with Magnatec at all, and it is relatively affordable. Have any of you tried this before? I have NEVER (and I have been driving relatively high-performance BMW's, turbo-diesels, and now a V had any engine trouble, due to this oil.

    I find it a really great all-rounder?

    Marius - have you tried using Magnatec before in your 2.5 5 cylinder turbo-diesel?


    Magnatec is a very good oil; I have used it many times on my previous petrol cars.

    My 320D only had CASTROL SLX PROFESSIONAL LONGTEC all its life...


    As mentioned above, the VW 505.01 specification is the crucial factor here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacquesb View Post
    Hi guys -

    I have always used Castrol Magnatec semi-synthetic in all my vehicles (for the last 12 to 14 years or so). I have never had and trouble with Magnatec at all, and it is relatively affordable. Have any of you tried this before? I have NEVER (and I have been driving relatively high-performance BMW's, turbo-diesels, and now a V had any engine trouble, due to this oil.

    I find it a really great all-rounder?

    Marius - have you tried using Magnatec before in your 2.5 5 cylinder turbo-diesel?
    I have only ever tried three castrol engine oils. GTX, magnatec and long life, all in my jetta 3 1.8 CSX. All three caused sludge and resulted the engine to use oil. Perhaps it was due to the inherent rich mixture found in carburetted cars allowing a bit of petrol to mix with the oil. FI engines may be better. I did drive the car very hard though when I had it. I pulled the sump to fix an oil leak on 300'000km (about 50'000km on delo at that stage) and the honing marks were still visible. Sold it on 320'000km still running perfect.

    Changed to delo and problem solved.

    Castrol makes good gear oils but Im not convinced on their engine oils. Many report very good results from Castrol however. Each to his own.

    I would never use anything other than 505.01 in my R5. It contains special additives for the cams as the lifter cam lobes are narrow to make space for the wide cam lobe that actuates the PD injector.

    My dad has about 260'000km on his v10, but remember that the cam manufacturing on the v10 may be different on it.

    The only real instances reported of cam failure are on the R5 and 1.9 tdi. I would stick to 505.01 5w-40 for my R5. I believe only Liqui Moly and Fuchs provide the 505.01 spec in the 5w-40 weight oil.



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    Magnatec comes in two derivatives:

    10W-40 with A3/B4 spec and is VW 501 01 / 505 00 compliant
    5W-40 with A3/B4 spec and is VW 502 00 / 505 00 compliant
    This is straight from the bottle.

    Magnetec was the first oil to make the Pajero's tappets shut up. Before that I was a Shell Helix fan.

    These guys have some additional info before selling their stuff:
    http://www.blauparts.com/vw-oils/vw-...tml#vw50200oil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockett View Post
    Magnatec comes in two derivatives:

    10W-40 with A3/B4 spec and is VW 501 01 / 505 00 compliant
    5W-40 with A3/B4 spec and is VW 502 00 / 505 00 compliant
    This is straight from the bottle.

    Magnetec was the first oil to make the Pajero's tappets shut up. Before that I was a Shell Helix fan.
    That does not comply with PD engine spec requirements which is very demanding as PD spec has additives that combat shear under extremely high pressures.

    VW's PD spec oil is probably the highest demanding spec out there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockett View Post

    Magnatec comes in two derivatives:

    10W-40 with A3/B4 spec and is VW 501 01 / 505 00 compliant
    5W-40 with A3/B4 spec and is VW 502 00 / 505 00 compliant
    Believe it or not, Magnatec 10W-40 VW 505 01 is what the VW dealership used on my TReg when I just bought it over two years ago.

    I still have the top-up bottle in the garage, I wil take a photo.

    I have tried to get hold of it, but could not find it anywhere to buy.

    One can easily get the Magnatec derivatives you mentioned above at a local Midas though, but as Marius said this is not correct oil for PD engines.





    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    That does not comply with PD engine spec requirements which is very demanding as PD spec has additives that combat shear under extremely high pressures.

    VW's PD spec oil is probably the highest demanding spec out there.


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    The VW 505.01 specification has specially been created/designed for PD Engines.

    Why would oil that complies to this standard not work for PD engines?
    Or were you referring to the second derivative?

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    there is a difference between 501.01 and 505.01

    http://www.oilspecifications.org/volkswagen.php

    505.01 is correct for PD engines.
    501.01 is not suitable for PD engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    there is a difference between 501.01 and 505.01

    http://www.oilspecifications.org/volkswagen.php

    505.01 is correct for PD engines.
    501.01 is not suitable for PD engines.

    You are correct....



    I see what you mean....


    It is too early for me and I need another coffee to wake up a bit more....


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    501.01 is nowhere near the required spec for PD.

    It has to be 505.01/506.01

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    501.01 is nowhere near the required spec for PD.

    It has to be 505.01/506.01

    You are 100% correct....


    Sorry, I'm a bit slow today and got mixed up with 505 ans 501.....


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    Installed some pencil beam spotlights today.








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    Grill out, cut to make space for the spots and a bracket made behind the grill to bolt the spots to.

    Lucky for me I live on a farm with no city lights, so easy to judge extra light. It makes a huge difference in night visibility, even if the spots look small.

    On top of that the slightly lower spots in the middle gives the car a mean look in my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    Grill out, cut to make space for the spots and a bracket made behind the grill to bolt the spots to.

    Lucky for me I live on a farm with no city lights, so easy to judge extra light. It makes a huge difference in night visibility, even if the spots look small.

    On top of that the slightly lower spots in the middle gives the car a mean look in my eyes.


    Looks nice and bright...

    I'm curious to see a nice photo in daylight.


    Question: Doesn't spotlights installed grille obstruct air flow towards radiator?


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    I got the following reference from a renowned friend.
    Thought of sharing it here with VW and Audi guys...


    Volkswagen Oil Standards Lists of all approved oils: http://4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.php?t=162657

    Volkswagen 505.01 Approved Oils: http://www.my-gti.com/2532/



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