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    Quote Originally Posted by Kortgat View Post
    That will be a terrible day. Not looking forward to this at all! With your skills you will be able to do an overnight swap with your dad's V10.

    If you think about it, from an engineering perspective 200k km's is however a very long time for a suspension strut to last. Treg is not exactly lightweight either.
    Mine is on 255'000km and dad's is on 270'000km and both haven't had a suspension issue yet. We both drive gravel often!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post

    VW specifies air strut replacement every 200'000km.

    I will do mine when it feels funny or fails.

    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    Mine is on 255'000km and dad's is on 270'000km and both haven't had a suspension issue yet. We both drive gravel often!

    Are you referring to Air suspension struts?
    I thought those never needs replacing except when physical failure...



    Any chance you know the expected replacement details of normal shock absorbers used with coil sprung suspensions?
    How do you know when it is kaput?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romzotwa View Post
    Are you referring to Air suspension struts?
    I though those never needs replacing except when physical failure...
    Failure is not an acceptable option to the Germans, hence you replace before it can happen (not sure what they were thinking with the propshaft centre bearing though). VW recommends 200k km's for replacement.
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    I think shock absorbers and coils are the same as any other car. Replace as necessary.

    I believe VW's replacement recommendation of 200k kms on the air struts is due to the salt corrosion overseas on gritted roads that corode the air supply nipple. But even that has a DIY fix without trashing the whole assembly.

    And then the only other failure is some air struts creating cracks, but I suspect that is also due to some corrosion and the sporty aftermarket low profile tyres they fit and then driving the car in sport mode through potholes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    And then the only other failure is some air struts creating cracks, but I suspect that is also due to some corrosion and the sporty aftermarket low profile tyres they fit and then driving the car in sport mode through potholes.
    Must be a few other factors. Devon on the forum here had this failure, his car runs on 17" and it just popped without warning. Very rare, but wish I could make sense of it. Very hard impact somewhere along the line must be a factor, or perhaps a small stone getting in-between the bellow and the aluminium part causes failure over time. I fear this one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kortgat View Post
    Must be a few other factors. Devon on the forum here had this failure, his car runs on 17" and it just popped without warning. Very rare, but wish I could make sense of it. Very hard impact somewhere along the line must be a factor, or perhaps a small stone getting in-between the bellow and the aluminium part causes failure over time. I fear this one!
    Yup, happened to my Treg 1 month after I bought it.... Thankfully the used car dealership replaced it for me. The guys at VW Hatfield had no idea what caused the failure..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kortgat View Post
    Must be a few other factors. Devon on the forum here had this failure, his car runs on 17" and it just popped without warning. Very rare, but wish I could make sense of it. Very hard impact somewhere along the line must be a factor, or perhaps a small stone getting in-between the bellow and the aluminium part causes failure over time. I fear this one!
    don't fear. They can be had for cheaper than the stealers

    http://www.air-suspension-shop.com/i...a=599&lang=eng

    http://glossyautoparts.en.alibaba.co...8616040D_.html

    I also attach 3 PDFs which may be of some value for parts and preventing the nippke corrosion failure.

    http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...3&d=1369750583
    http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...2&d=1369750583
    http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...1&d=1369750583

    Very nice long thread regarding the corrosion issue here

    http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f4...lem-33373.html

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    Thnx. The corrosion I'm fine with, because I can control that with a bit of maintenance, and it's not a big issue with no salt on our roads. The blow-out is the scary one, but yes, very very rare. Will cross that bridge when and if I ever need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kortgat View Post
    Must be a few other factors. Devon on the forum here had this failure, his car runs on 17" and it just popped without warning. Very rare, but wish I could make sense of it. Very hard impact somewhere along the line must be a factor, or perhaps a small stone getting in-between the bellow and the aluminium part causes failure over time. I fear this one!

    Ai Dieter but we need this man up here.!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    don't fear. They can be had for cheaper than the stealers

    http://www.air-suspension-shop.com/i...a=599&lang=eng

    http://glossyautoparts.en.alibaba.co...8616040D_.html

    I also attach 3 PDFs which may be of some value for parts and preventing the nippke corrosion failure.

    http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...3&d=1369750583
    http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...2&d=1369750583
    http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...1&d=1369750583

    Very nice long thread regarding the corrosion issue here

    http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f4...lem-33373.html

    Jy sit aan die gatkant van die aarde

    Come on!!!!!Make a move up here

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisLab View Post
    Jy sit aan die gatkant van die aarde

    Come on!!!!!Make a move up here

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    These are some scenes from my daily living. How much would you pay to have this as a daily experience? For how much would you give it up?

    Problem is I love living/working here but the long term prospect here is uncertain....

    My facebook mobile uploads album has plenty more

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    These are some scenes from my daily living. How much would you pay to have this as a daily experience? For how much would you give it up?

    Problem is I love living/working here but the long term prospect here is uncertain....

    My facebook mobile uploads album has plenty more

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...4822272&type=3
    Beautiful scenes, scenery and set up BUT you work hard for a couple of years down here, you will be able to afford a place like that of your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    I think shock absorbers and coils are the same as any other car. Replace as necessary.

    Now still the question; how do you know when it is time/necessary to replace these shocks?

    I've read up on many ways to check this, but many believes it is complete BS e.g. the shock test machine....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romzotwa View Post
    Now still the question; how do you know when it is time/necessary to replace these shocks?

    I've read up on many ways to check this, but many believes it is complete BS e.g. the shock test machine....

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    Stand in front of the bonnet. Put your hands on the bonnet. Jump in the air keeping your hands on the bonnet and break your come down by pressing the bonnet down. The nose of the car should come back up in two movements. If it bounces the shocks are shot.

    Kinda like this guy does it

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    or alternatively try to rock the vehicle from side to side. It should resist you. If you rock it easily the shocks are shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    Stand in front of the bonnet. Put your hands on the bonnet. Jump in the air keeping your hands on the bonnet and break your come down by pressing the bonnet down. The nose of the car should come back up in two movements. If it bounces the shocks are shot.

    Kinda like this guy does it

    http://youtu.be/jmLGKWWa1oo


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    A friend of mine also showed me this method.
    This is also a method which many people disputes.

    Trying to bounce my TReg is also like impossible.
    That car is rock solid but not as solid as my friend's newer TReg with 70k KMS less mileage.

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    Shocks can be checked in that manner, ie car bounced.

    However, to be tested, they need to be removed and mounted on a test rig. Brian Burns has a test rig in Eloff St, JHB
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    To rock a SUV one needs some serious effort.

    To get an indication of my vehicles' damper fitness I simply do a sharp brake on a short start-up and monitor the nose bounce. More than 1 up and 1 down shows signs of damper wear. Then I also drive at a fast 1st gear speed up a small kurb such as at the house's entrance from the street and brake sharply. I then again monitor the swaying and bouncing. If it is solid, then I am sure the vehicles dampers are still ok.

    One does need a reference of good damper vs bad damper for the second test though.

    Eventually if unsure have it tested at a local wheel and suspension shop. They can put a magafter under each wheel that bounces it en check damper working. If the wheel looses contact with the bouncing plate, then the damper is not working as well anymore.

    Proper testing is then removal and testing on machine as stated above.

    So begin dit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockett View Post
    To rock a SUV one needs some serious effort.

    To get an indication of my vehicles' damper fitness I simply do a sharp brake on a short start-up and monitor the nose bounce. More than 1 up and 1 down shows signs of damper wear. Then I also drive at a fast 1st gear speed up a small kurb such as at the house's entrance from the street and brake sharply. I then again monitor the swaying and bouncing. If it is solid, then I am sure the vehicles dampers are still ok.

    One does need a reference of good damper vs bad damper for the second test though.

    Eventually if unsure have it tested at a local wheel and suspension shop. They can put a magafter under each wheel that bounces it en check damper working. If the wheel looses contact with the bouncing plate, then the damper is not working as well anymore.

    Proper testing is then removal and testing on machine as stated above.

    Damper is the most correct word...

    There are many who don't know this.
    Shock Absorber actually refers to whole Coil spring and Damper assembly.


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    Ran some wire and installed my garmin semi permanent in the dash cubby.




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