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    Default Re: Marius's Touareg R5 life thread. Something like that

    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    Two wheel bearings on the way and I'm starting to think how to do it.

    It's not a conventional bearing that you can use the old outer race to drive in the new bearings. And I don't want to drive the new expensive bearings in on the inner race.

    And I'm not paying R5k for the tool set you need to do it.

    So, I'm thinking about taking the knuckle off completely, moering the old one out, then put the knuckle in the oven on hell for a bit, and put the bearing in the freezer for a bit. The expansion difference should have it drop right in?

    Any problems with this? I can't think of any. Your thoughts?
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    Default Re: Marius's Touareg R5 life thread. Something like that

    I'd also like to see what it looks like. Is it any different to say a Golf's front wheel bearing other than much bigger?
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    Default Re: Marius's Touareg R5 life thread. Something like that

    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    Pictures?
    This is the wheel bearing

    https://www.rexbo.eu/optimal/wheel-b...00013?c=100579

    I haven't stripped the hub yet.

    The ebay tool kit

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/GEN-2-Compac...-/181090277425

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    Default Re: Marius's Touareg R5 life thread. Something like that

    This is the schematic of the rear but principle is the same.


    10 -> Touareg R5 bearing
    5 -> All the other touaregs' bearings

    Last edited by MariusFourie; 2016/10/24 at 12:19 PM.

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    Default Re: Marius's Touareg R5 life thread. Something like that

    provided the heat and cold provides enough clearance it should drop in easily.

    Is there any downside to expose a bearing to such extreme cold? Some cars live in such cold temps so it can't be that bad.

    The hub in the oven can't be that bad. It's just metal. No electronics or balljoints or rubber or anything.

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    Default Re: Marius's Touareg R5 life thread. Something like that

    1. Knock the old bearing out.
    2. Remove the innards, so that you have only the outer shell (ring) left.
    3. Split this with an angle grinder.
    4. Use this (split ring) to press the new bearing into place (the fact that it is split, will ensure that it does not stick in the hub with the new bearing)
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    Default Re: Marius's Touareg R5 life thread. Something like that

    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    1. Knock the old bearing out.
    2. Remove the innards, so that you have only the outer shell (ring) left.
    3. Split this with an angle grinder.
    4. Use this (split ring) to press the new bearing into place (the fact that it is split, will ensure that it does not stick in the hub with the new bearing)
    Getting the old bearing out should be easy. I can use force.

    The new bearing is a sealed unit so it can't be split.

    There is no conventional means of pressing it in on the outer race. It can only be hammered in on the flange which is basically hammering on the inner race.

    The tool kit allows you to press behind the flange with n adapter onto the outer race through the wheel holes.

    My only option is the oven freezer method or hammer method or wait 6 weeks for a R5k kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    Getting the old bearing out should be easy. I can use force.

    The new bearing is a sealed unit so it can't be split.

    There is no conventional means of pressing it in on the outer race. It can only be hammered in on the flange which is basically hammering on the inner race.

    The tool kit allows you to press behind the flange with n adapter onto the outer race through the wheel holes.

    My only option is the oven freezer method or hammer method or wait 6 weeks for a R5k kit.
    You are not getting my idea (I used it years ago on a Audi 200)
    You split the OLD bearing's outer shell.
    This will seat on the new bearing's outer shell as well (so the power is applied to the outside)
    Use a press to press the new bearing into the hub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    You are not getting my idea (I used it years ago on a Audi 200)
    You split the OLD bearing's outer shell.
    This will seat on the new bearing's outer shell as well (so the power is applied to the outside)
    Use a press to press the new bearing into the hub.
    You can't seat the old outer race onto the new outer race from the drive direction.
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    Default Re: Marius's Touareg R5 life thread. Something like that

    is is the method with the specialised kit

    Mute the sound

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5FIq1W7hPM

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    Default Re: Marius's Touareg R5 life thread. Something like that

    Wow, that tool set makes it look so easy!
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    Default Re: Marius's Touareg R5 life thread. Something like that

    Ok that is for doing it in situ. I'm sure ypu can build a simialr "tool" yourself fairly easily. If you take off the hub, other possibilities open up.
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    Default Re: Marius's Touareg R5 life thread. Something like that

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    Ok that is for doing it in situ. I'm sure ypu can build a simialr "tool" yourself fairly easily. If you take off the hub, other possibilities open up.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderGear View Post
    Wow, that tool set makes it look so easy!
    I want to take the hub off and do this. That's easy peasy and I can't see the downside.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-fugJSzA8U

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    I see no issues with the oven freezer method. It has been used in engineering on industrial machines for quite a while and you don't hear of them ever failing because of this.
    If I have it correct for every degree above about 70 C the hub should expand by 0.1 or something of the sort. Combine that with the frozen bearing it should slide right over as you say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4xFord View Post
    I see no issues with the oven freezer method. It has been used in engineering on industrial machines for quite a while and you don't hear of them ever failing because of this.
    If I have it correct for every degree above about 70 C the hub should expand by 0.1 or something of the sort. Combine that with the frozen bearing it should slide right over as you say.
    Awesome. I thought as much. I'm gonna try it that way.

    I just need them to arrive now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    Getting the old bearing out should be easy. I can use force.

    The new bearing is a sealed unit so it can't be split.

    There is no conventional means of pressing it in on the outer race. It can only be hammered in on the flange which is basically hammering on the inner race.

    The tool kit allows you to press behind the flange with n adapter onto the outer race through the wheel holes.

    My only option is the oven freezer method or hammer method or wait 6 weeks for a R5k kit.
    You are not getting my idea (I used it years ago on a Audi 200)
    You split the OLD bearing's outer shell.
    This will seat on the new bearing's outer shell as well (so the power is applied to the outside)
    Use a press to press the new bearing into the hub.
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    Stripped the one side












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    Im not a film maker so excuse the search for words and bad narrating

    https://youtu.be/pRiqA57Vz1k

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
    Im not a film maker so excuse the search for words and bad narrating

    https://youtu.be/pRiqA57Vz1k


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